Electric Vehicle TECHNICAL Discussion
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AI is a set of enhanced optimization algorithms and search functions developed and programmed by humans with intelligence, so there cannot be any earthly intelligence greater than that developed by the human mind. Superintelligence is currently a great buzzword designed by sales teams of various AI companies in Silicon Valley so ignore it.
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I have no idea about your question, maybe someone does
All I know is the auto & car parts factories are heavily automated and robotic for many years but I'm not sure where the direction is going.
Basic camera recognition started many years ago for basic stuff such as sorting things or finding materials faults in finished products but don't know where it's at now because everythjng is advancing so fast.
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The problem with Boston Dynamics is they are unable to commercialize their tech. Making a few robots is easy making them at scale and at a profit is 1000x more difficult. The company has been around for 33 years that's in theory one hell of a first mover advantage.
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You can, you can say I don't believe in that, or that doesn't make logical or scientific sense to me. There are many things in Christianity, Judaism and other theist beliefs that don't make sense, and I respect people who come to those conclusions. The problem I have with Dawkins is he comes to an absolute conclusion, which is a form of religious zealotry. What I'm trying to say is, there are no absolutes. We can't prove an afterlife, but we can't disprove one either. The problem with Dawkins is he has concluded that an intelligent being absolutely doesn't exist, at least that's what I got from reading his books and watching his lectures. Hope that clears things up 
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You can, you can say I don't believe in that, or that doesn't make logical or scientific sense to me. There are many things in Christianity, Judaism and other theist beliefs that don't make sense, and I respect people who come to those conclusions. The problem I have with Dawkins is he comes to an absolute conclusion, which is a form of religious zealotry. What I'm trying to say is, there are no absolutes. We can't prove an afterlife, but we can't disprove one either. The problem with Dawkins is he has concluded that an intelligent being absolutely doesn't exist, at least that's what I got from reading his books and watching his lectures. Hope that clears things up
Anyway, back to EVs.
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I do not intend to imply any criticism on anyone's beliefs. I just had a problem with the word "debunked" in relation to theology, and the reason for that is the only thing that can ever really be offered in support of a theological "debunking" is an alternative but equally non-provable belief.
Anyway, back to EVs.
Anyway, back to EVs.
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VW put some thought into their drive unit gearing. I don't like the use of a shim to set bearing pre-load but this is common in automatic transmissions for example. Tesla is using giant bearings for the Plaid motor I wonder who makes them didn't see a brand mark.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TUHBki1fiMY
https://www.youtube.com/live/TUHBki1fiMY
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VW put some thought into their drive unit gearing. I don't like the use of a shim to set bearing pre-load but this is common in automatic transmissions for example. Tesla is using giant bearings for the Plaid motor I wonder who makes them didn't see a brand mark.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TUHBki1fiMY
https://www.youtube.com/live/TUHBki1fiMY
All I know is shim washers for bearings are a must for tight tolerances- only because it removes axial shaft play by preloading the bearings. 🐢
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The machine work must have enough variability that can't be corrected. Like valve lash, every modern engine ever made has to compensate for the variable gap between the valve stem and camshaft.
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I strongly disagree with this. AI can and will become much smarter than any human we're talking about the totality of human knowledge in one entity. Parlay that into self driving, same thing the best aspects of the best drivers combined with 8 cameras and much faster reflexes means a much better driver than any human. This will happen the trend is very clear.
TBD
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It remains to be seen if bad human driving is attributed to purely the lack of a library's worth of information (in which case your definition and reasoning for AI accelerating the progress in self driving is a self fulfilling prophecy) or something more that requires motivation, self-awareness, and the formation of concepts (which at this moment is just not feasible with AI.)
TBD
TBD
Also Waymo autonomously takes 150,000 trips every week.
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I see what you're saying though.
Maybe there should be new words amd terms to differentiate between computation models and.actual self awareness?
Or can self awareness emerge from a computational model. Hmmm
But then that makes new problems for me because where and how do we define it. Lol
Hell, I don't know.
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Ok, this is getting deep and I love it.
On one hand I can say a chess program is just a mathematical program.
So is a car that uses an array of sensors to "drive".
But, I put that in quotes because it's just using sensor feedback to not hit anything, all mathematical.
Camera vision driving would be a whole different level if it recognizes patterns like humans, Imo.
Is consciousnes heavy computational or is there actual "awareness", jury is still out on that because many scientists think consciousness is outside the body.
Is this "awareness" something that AI can actually do, I don't know.
But as far as driving goes, oh yeah we set the bar low already. Haha
I agree with everything you say and it just asks more questions. 🏆
Ps, I cant stand Richard Dawkins but that's on me. Lol
On one hand I can say a chess program is just a mathematical program.
So is a car that uses an array of sensors to "drive".
But, I put that in quotes because it's just using sensor feedback to not hit anything, all mathematical.
Camera vision driving would be a whole different level if it recognizes patterns like humans, Imo.
Is consciousnes heavy computational or is there actual "awareness", jury is still out on that because many scientists think consciousness is outside the body.
Is this "awareness" something that AI can actually do, I don't know.
But as far as driving goes, oh yeah we set the bar low already. Haha
I agree with everything you say and it just asks more questions. 🏆
Ps, I cant stand Richard Dawkins but that's on me. Lol