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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Top spec Bronco is slower than the GX550. But lower spec Bronco is about the same as the Land Crusier
Thats a way of looking at it actually, the LC and GX being the same concept as a range…

6.5 for the GX550 isn’t slow.

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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
So the GX550 must be faster than the factory ratings too. Lexus says 6.5 for the GX so must be 5.5 is the LX is exceeding by a full second
I don't go by Lexus' numbers. I go by professional objective tests. Sometimes Lexus is optimistic, sometimes it goes the other way..

I really don't care, if I want a truly fast truck I hop in the Yukon. But my point is, even after driving that monster the LX still feels good being less powerful and not nearly as quick.
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 08:04 AM
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This is the reason I consider Lexus to still be a top tier brand.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Thats a way of looking at it actually, the LC and GX being the same concept as a range…

6.5 for the GX550 isn’t slow.
This has always been the case with Toyota. There has always been more powerful domestic alternatives.

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I don't go by Lexus' numbers. I go by professional objective tests. Sometimes Lexus is optimistic, sometimes it goes the other way..

I really don't care, if I want a truly fast truck I hop in the Yukon. But my point is, even after driving that monster the LX still feels good being less powerful and not nearly as quick.
It goes both ways. Car and Driver got 6.2 seconds with the GX550 which exceeds the Lexus ratings but is faster than your LX
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At the end of the day, nothing with a 0-60 time under 7 seconds is slow, and really most stuff in the 7s isn't going to feel slow in normal driving. With the electric assist in the LC I bet it feels just fine in regular driving.

Remember 7 seconds 0-60 used to be FAST.

And like I and all the surveys have said, people do care about fuel economy. Toyota has clearly chosen to cater to those who do...its the #1 issue for car buyers according to all the surveys I have seen. Its a selling proposition for sure.

Case in point, the Sienna hybrid. To me that vehicle is very slow. My office admin just bought one and she loves it, her biggest rave about it is the fuel economy. So, its for her its not for me.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
At the end of the day, nothing with a 0-60 time under 7 seconds is slow, and really most stuff in the 7s isn't going to feel slow in normal driving.
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7 seconds used to be fast....
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I never looked at 0-60 when I had my GX. I always felt it was slow. When I switched to S, it responded better. I just checked and it's 7.2-7.8. It's relative but I think 7s is slow when you need a quick acceleration.
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
This has always been the case with Toyota. There has always been more powerful domestic alternatives.

It goes both ways. Car and Driver got 6.2 seconds with the GX550 which exceeds the Lexus ratings but is faster than your LX
Lol. DJ is not a dragster. It's fine. I just think the GX might have been faster. That is an insane amount of torque to get it out of the hole, but I swear Motorweek said it's soft off the line.
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I never looked at 0-60 when I had my GX. I always felt it was slow. When I switched to S, it responded better. I just checked and it's 7.2-7.8. It's relative but I think 7s is slow when you need a quick acceleration.
I had an I35 that did it in 7 flat. It was a quick car. Nothing face altering, but powerful and quick.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS

Case in point, the Sienna hybrid. To me that vehicle is very slow. My office admin just bought one and she loves it, her biggest rave about it is the fuel economy. So, its for her its not for me.
yet the Pacifica gas is slower to 60mph than the Sienna hybrid. Sienna actually has more passenger volume. And more cargo volume



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Lol. DJ is not a dragster. It's fine. I just think the GX might have been faster. That is an insane amount of torque to get it out of the hole, but I swear Motorweek said it's soft off the line.
‘But the GX is faster than your LX570. You said the GX was slow
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘But the GX is faster than your LX570. You said the GX was slow
LOL, I don't care!

2024 engine versus 2008, I just thought it would be faster with those numbers.
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LOL, I don't care!

2024 engine versus 2008, I just thought it would be faster with those numbers.
‘But it is faster than you LX. It also tows more. Hauls more as well. Yet is has less cylinders and less HP,
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘But it is faster than you LX. It also tows more. Hauls more as well. Yet is has less cylinders and less HP,
GX or LC is? GX is slightly quicker, yes. It also has an engine that grenades itself.

New LC would be dusted by a 200.



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