My buddy in high school had a 1986 IROC Z and I’m old enough that it was a new car then. A very nicely painted Porsche 914 pulled up next to us and my friend and the guy decided to race. I was stuffed in the back seat that night because that’s where you sit if you’re a sophomore and you’re only in the car because your brother’s a senior and he’s riding shotgun. The 914 smokes us and the guy chirps Scott, the driver. Scott who says he’s got three people in the car so the guy spots us the intersection and passes us not long after we crossed it. Grand National engine in a 914. It was pretty rad and it was fast.

 

ha, my post was at 8:19am, so by noon it WAS 68f.

 

anyways m back to cars




LX600 still has old school pulls for the gas door. I love it



very cool plastic door cover over the metal door

 

You've repeatedly poo-poo'd plastic covers on the inside of the gas door when other brands have used them; and said that Lexus' cheap stamped metal with sharp edges was the superior and more luxurious design. Interesting how that opinion changes once Lexus decides to join their competitors.

 

Maybe Lexus uses a very special plastic lol.

 

All I want for Christmas is....
A scratch and dent???

What the hell!

Thank you for the gifts, whoever did this. Haha 😂
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Bummer. A good PDR guy could take care of that for you at a reasonable price.

 

I had criticized the flimsy plastic fuel door in the past. Especially the cheap door arm The fuel door on the LX is still metal.







this is the Toyota Tacoma. Super cheap feeling
Still the exact same door, with a tasteful plastic interior covering detail

 

The plastic gas door hinge vs that old metal spring hinge, the plastic full sweep hinge feels much better. Those old Lexus/toyota spring metal hinges are actually super cheap and they create that whole "bounce open" kind of action where the plastic full sweep hinge is damped and just kind of glides open.

Cheapness has nothing to do with it here, that big plastic hinge is no cheaper.

 

Should be capless fill, that's a great feature that you don't appreciate until you start using it.

I drive an LX so obviously I'm a fan but this one is just outclassed in every single area except off road capability.

 

I personally don't really care capless vs having a cap. The Pacifica is capless, Mercedes has the nice metal cap...doesn't bother me either way.

 

A nice metal MB cap is nice (lol I want one for mine!) but so is not even having to deal with it. I'm super fast when getting gas so it's one less step lol. BTW this should come as no surprise but the Denali gets even worse mileage than the V8 LX. At least the way I drive it around.

Also @Toys4RJill about the metal hinge, makes sense. Pretty much everything in a Land Cruiser/LX is just tougher.

 

The plastic fuel door is cheap when the manufacturer doesn’t use real metal to match the metal body panels. The plastic arms feel super cheap.


Thanks. Glad you can appreciate that.

 

I find it funny you feel that removing a small cap to get fuel is an issue but you hate push button start and keyless entry lol

The other issue with capless fillers is if you do have a cap leak you can't just replace the cap, its a very expensive repair.

That metal hinge on that LC Jill posted is the exact same metal hinge thats on my 2003 ES....just sayin

I think you are over emphasizing the cost difference between extremely thin metal and quality plastic. That metal is not thick, its very thin actually and that butterfly spring hinge is not very robust. A big thick plastic hinge with dampening gears is not cheaper. Not saying the Tacoma has that dampening but the Mercedes does, for instance.

 

Right lol and that gen was the most overbuilt and probably best ES ever, it was like a $60,000 car inside then but cost like 35. I don't know a lot of cars that had wood that beautifully curves around the gauges for 35 grand. My LS430 doesn't have that lol.

Good point about repairing that, and I've repeatedly said about the start stop is that it's a keys issue... I lose the keys. And it's frustrating to have to cycle it to just get the radio when you can just click the ignition back one notch with a car with a key. Also starting it to warm up takes 2 hands as opposed to just reaching over and starting it.