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Old Yesterday | 05:40 AM
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LOL (yes that was an intentional response).

Its some way to interject levity. I know for a fact Paul constantly reads tone into my posts which isn't there.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
LOL (yes that was an intentional response).

Its some way to interject levity. I know for a fact Paul constantly reads tone into my posts which isn't there.
Clearly you haven't read most of his posts if you think anyone is misreading them to be anything other than condescending, rude and insulting. He routinely calls BS on anyone giving their personal experience with FSD and saying they have no idea what they're talking about and are gullible to be paying for the biggest scam in the automotive universe - FSD.

And then he will add the lol or some stupid smiling emoji to cover the insult.
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Maybe he's clowning us, maybe not. It's really hard to tell. But whatever, he has made his views clear, so continuing further arguments is just a waste of brain power, which I'm finding more limited as I age. In other words, I have no time for bullshit 🤣
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LoL I gotta buy me one of those 🤣🤣
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Clearly you haven't read most of his posts if you think anyone is misreading them to be anything other than condescending, rude and insulting. He routinely calls BS on anyone giving their personal experience with FSD and saying they have no idea what they're talking about and are gullible to be paying for the biggest scam in the automotive universe - FSD.

And then he will add the lol or some stupid smiling emoji to cover the insult.
I've read them and I have known him on forums for many years, he is churning you up and you rise to it every time. He has strong opinions on the matter, you don't have to counter everything he says. For whatever reason Tesla/EV/FSD fans are HIGHLY defensive and sensitive to anything that even smells of potentially being negative being said about these technologies, and some people get a real kick out of posting stuff and watching people get their intestines all twisted up like they insulted their mother.

As an outsider looking in whats funny is you post the same sorts of things that are condescending, rude and insulting and call BS on anybody positing a personal opinion or experience about these technologies that isn't positive, your viewpoint is just the opposite of his.

I know this first hand because I have been attacked for being "negative about EVs" for wanting them to have more range AND called "one of the biggest EV nuthuggers here" in the same thread!

I have to commend @AMIRZA786 because he has clearly made an effort to not react to these sorts of things with the traditional response (which he used to do also), and it has made a big difference in how these discussions go. If someone ultimately doesn't like something or doesn't agree...just let it go.

This is the right response:

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Maybe he's clowning us, maybe not. It's really hard to tell. But whatever, he has made his views clear, so continuing further arguments is just a waste of brain power, which I'm finding more limited as I age. In other words, I have no time for bullshit 🤣

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My post generally reflect my thoughts, I don't just troll, but I admit - while not my intent, it's still hilarious to see some butthurt reactions.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Maybe he's clowning us, maybe not.
His posts are below 4chan quality even that crowd would be telling him to STFU.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
For whatever reason Tesla/EV/FSD fans are HIGHLY defensive and sensitive to anything that even smells of potentially being negative being said about these technologies
holy sweeping statement. while there will always be SOME very defensive fans, for the MOST part the issue is the ‘critics’ haven’t even used FSD or they used it YEARS ago, and the reality is it is constantly improving. they also just base their opinions on other click-bait comments and videos focusing on some mistake fsd made or some ludicrous abuse of the feature.

As an outsider looking in whats funny is you post the same sorts of things that are condescending, rude and insulting and call BS on anybody positing a personal opinion or experience about these technologies that isn't positive, your viewpoint is just the opposite of his.
hameed is one of the nicest politest people i’ve met. he is not those things you are accusing him of. i’ve no doubt och is also a really nice guy in person, but he clearly enjoys stirring things up (poking the bear).

and part of the issue is also repetition. the same assertions (whether already shown to be provably false one or many times) get posted over and over, and it just gets old.

we’re all adults here, and we know ev’s aren’t for everyone. they’re different than ice cars, hybrids, even phev’s. we know there aren’t public chargers in as many places as gas stations. conversely ev critics should recognize people don’t have gas stations at home (but most ev drivers do)!

If someone ultimately doesn't like something or doesn't agree...just let it go.
ok, waiting for you to bring up lexus’ ‘failure’ with tz range again.

back to tesla fsd…

we’re going to get HW5 (or Ai5 i think it’s now called) at some point which will be able to make faster, more complex, and more subtle driving decisions. and cyber taxi which isn’t just fsd, it’s AUTONOMOUS DRIVING, will contribute VAST amounts of more training data for the driving models. most people only see things as they are now, or have heard, or as they were in the past. but given the progress already it’s clearly only a matter of time before teslas can drive autonomously if the driver wants it to. may be a year. may be 5 years. i don’t know. but it’s coming.

but for now, it’s still a wonderful feature to most WHO USE IT or have had a lot of experience with it. i miss it now that i don’t have a tesla. i hope to have it again. maybe soon.

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Originally Posted by Och
My post generally reflect my thoughts, I don't just troll, but I admit - while not my intent, it's still hilarious to see some butthurt reactions.
And I can appreciate your button pushing. I did it to my kids, and I still do it to my wife
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Here's what I find odd, the harshest critics don't seem to have any form of long term memory they seem to think FSD is frozen in time. 3 years ago FSD HAD to be supervised now only edge cases need attention. Not sure I agree FSD needs HW5 it's possible but I don't think likely. If so, eventually FSD + Cybercab will roll out wide and that will be the largest wealth unlocking catalysts probably ever. Per year each vehicle could make 2x the production cost in revenue. This is why people wanting Tesla to be the next Toyota is so baffling to me, what's the point?
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This is why people wanting Tesla to be the next Toyota is so baffling to me, what's the point?
baffling or not, it ain’t happening, lol. tesla is an entirely different beast.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
baffling or not, it ain’t happening, lol. tesla is an entirely different beast.
So has everyone finally accepted that Tesla is not just another car company?
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
So has everyone finally accepted that Tesla is not just another car company?
It's pretty obvious
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