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My god look what I spotted at Lexus. If I had room I’d buy it right now after a MB inspection. The mileage is a little low for my taste but that car is cleannnnnnn. $16,899 38k miles. If I had the room in my garage I’d go down there right now with a check. That is a 25k car easy.
Humorously enough, the rotors aren't the most crazy-expensive things in this picture. Retail on that ATF is $35/liter (can be found for $20), and the PS fluid is $45/liter (usually around $30).
The LS430 has decent brakes but they aren’t at all what the Germans have by comparison. The LS wasn’t designed for the Autobahn it was designed for the US where we don’t drive more than 90 typically.
Humorously enough, the rotors aren't the most crazy-expensive things in this picture. Retail on that ATF is $35/liter (can be found for $20), and the PS fluid is $45/liter (usually around $30).
Oh you missed the REAL expensive boi in that picture...my TVD fluid is $90 a quart for the "affordable" aftermarket version. The Audi bottle with the same stuff is $180 each lol!
I got that ZF8 fluid for $9.50 each thankfully, CHF was $15 each but I game the hell out of consumables cost.
I watch a guy on YouTube that rebuilds Automatic Transmissions. Every once in a while he gets a real stinky one where he walks out of the room lol.
The first CNC machine I worked on had this nasty smelling gear oil. There was a Texaco logo on the front but I don't remember the viscosity. Even just pouring a little into the funnel was brutal.
I watch a guy on YouTube that rebuilds Automatic Transmissions. Every once in a while he gets a real stinky one where he walks out of the room lol.
The first CNC machine I worked on had this nasty smelling gear oil. There was a Texaco logo on the front but I don't remember the viscosity. Even just pouring a little into the funnel was brutal.
Thankfully this stuff is true synth and ester based I believe, it actually smells very nice! Just like redline actually, that's why I suspect it's ester based as redline for sure is and it smells great. Their MTL fluid in particular has a nice semi-floral smell
The LS430 has decent brakes but they aren’t at all what the Germans have by comparison. The LS wasn’t designed for the Autobahn it was designed for the US where we don’t drive more than 90 typically.
Same, that's a nice car but I just don't like that interior spec. If it was black then hell yeah!
I watch a guy on YouTube that rebuilds Automatic Transmissions. Every once in a while he gets a real stinky one where he walks out of the room lol.
The first CNC machine I worked on had this nasty smelling gear oil. There was a Texaco logo on the front but I don't remember the viscosity. Even just pouring a little into the funnel was brutal.
Yep, I've changed diff oil exactly once. That smell is EPIC. I will happily pay someone else to do it for the rest of my life. I would rather buy a new diff than open one up.
The LS430 has decent brakes but they aren’t at all what the Germans have by comparison. The LS wasn’t designed for the Autobahn it was designed for the US where we don’t drive more than 90 typically.
I disagree. Please see where I posted a C&D article and they specifically mentioned the hardware. I'm telling you, the LS430 tracks as well as the SL. So far I've gone about 120 in the SL. It's faster, yeah. But there is no discernible difference in which car is the better "cruise mobile" on the interstate. Don't forget older LS400s topped 150 and everyone was extremely impressed. I do know that the first ones had weak brakes, so they upped them. Read again what they said about the hardware, remember it was the slickest car in production .26 at the time, .25 with air
Go straight to 3:00. It looks like he's doing 70, but it's 155.
Love when he says LS400 is more refined than a Rolls, back then at that time it absolutely was.
I had an LS430 too, it’s nowhere near as solid at high speeds as an S Class or 7 Series of the era. The LS460 is better but even it isn’t. Descriptions of what the components look like don’t tell me anything.
I had an LS430 too, it’s nowhere near as solid at high speeds as an S Class or 7 Series of the era. The LS460 is better but even it isn’t. Descriptions of what the components look like don’t tell me anything.
Look more into it. They're saying it's got the hardware. My Dad had an E38, no better. If anything that 740 wasn't as good as an LS430.
Here is more from the same article:
At the limits, braking hard from 105 mph to set up for a 65-mph hard right, the car's weight transfers smoothly forward without any lurching dive. It responds obediently to the merest hint of steering input and turns in smoothly and precisely. Exceed the limit, and it transitions progressively into oversteer that's easily corrected with a slight lift off the throttle and a mere flick of the wheel.
LS430 has an excellent chassis is the summary of that paragraph. I mean, did you ever drive it at the limits and brake from 105 to 65 to make a hard turn like they did? They drove it on a racetrack and approved, even praised it. The W222 I rode in doesn't ride as well as an LS430, at least over expansion joint and bumps. But it's mostly because of the low profile tires so it does get half a pass. We can just agree to disgree.
The LS430 rode great but lacked the dynamism that the German cars have or the LS460s have. I can appreciate you rode in a W222 but it will run circles around an LS430 and feels way more solid at high speeds while riding as well.
There is a reason why the LS430 .73 skidpad figure and the LS460 is .83 and an S560 is .90. My Pacifica has a .81 skidpad figure so no, the LS430 is no handler at all.
I don’t have to read anything, I’ve owned all these cars I know how they drive and compare
The LS430 rode great but lacked the dynamism that the German cars have or the LS460s have. I can appreciate you rode in a W222 but it will run circles around an LS430 and feels way more solid at high speeds while riding as well.
There in the bolded I agree with you.
Originally Posted by SW17LS
There is a reason why the LS430 .73 skidpad figure and the LS460 is .83 and an S560 is .90. My Pacifica has a .81 skidpad figure so no, the LS430 is no handler at all.
I don't think anyone ever tested it with the 18s that I'm aware of, the skidpad would have been better but still, nothing like yours, I never said it out handles any S-Class lol. Of course it's not a car made for twists, but ever since I switched rims to the OEM 18s the handling is very noticeably better. It's even half fun to take this big uphill turn near my house, because of those bigger rims and lower profile tires.
Lexus gave all the magazines ULs with the 17s in order to impress them with the best possible ride.
This is from the $70k comparison test the LS won which seems to support my last statement:
If you really want muscles, opt for the sport suspension with 18-inch summer tires. The 17s on the test car were quick to moan when pushed. Skidpad grip was weakest of all, 0.73 g. But don't confuse that with stumbling behavior. This is an agile dancer wearing slippery shoes.
It's best that you have a light touch on the controls when you hustle. The steering and the brakes are almost delicate in their feel. You must caress them. And when you do, the responses come with precision. Still, this sedan is at its best on the expressway. The steering knows exactly where straight ahead is, and the faster you go, the more it locks onto that heading.
No professional magazine ever praised the chassis of a 460 in the same way. Other things, sure. The sport packages would be enough to satisfy me on the last ones, but I'm sure that's a minority opinion.
03-22-24, 10:36 AM
love those old SLs.
