From the info I saw they are heavily discounted, not sure why they would be hard to find.

 

Yeah stuff like this is what I feared would happen about 4 years ago, I just KNEW they would find a way to get the money back somehow.

 

They are a hell of a deal if you are willing to roll the dice on if they brick or not, it's not like a used Tesla where you have near endless support for any and all issues.

 

^^ This is why I wouldn't get one ^^ I don't have full trust yet of legacy auto when it comes to EV's, for example our Ioniq 5 was constantly going back to the dealership for recalls on the LV battery, and our friends actually bricked on the freeway. Although 3 years later, my daughters 2023 Chevy Bolt hasn't had one issue, nor has she taken it to the dealership even once since buying it

 

Yep, I wouldn't risk it until the support is there. Tesla was first and is the most monolithic so they are essentially the only option.

Same reason I don't buy any car until at least the 5 year mark, I don't want to be left with a brick that is waiting on parts for some defect/recall etc.

 

Not knowing about the differences doesn't mean the differences don't exist lol

I haven't driven any modern car that doesn't feel safe at 80.

Not to the S Class standards inside, material quality etc is more E Class.

 

not sure how you drive but in my model 3, i can hit triple digits and the car is still fully stable and controllable.

 

Ah I see you've never had the pleasure of driving a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. That thing felt like it was falling apart while driving it out of the rental car lot.

 

A lot of people experience Teslas primarily through Uber/Lyft. I've had at most 2 OPD competent Uber/Lyft drivers.

 

I mean you can just rent one for a week to try them out too, OPD isn't something I like personally but it works and you can be smooth with it. Just don't snap off the throttle

 

I can't say very many nice things about today's Mitsubishi U.S.-market products, either, but, if they DO fall apart prematurely, they at least have a 10-year Powertrain and 5-year Bumper-to-Bumper warranty like Hyundai/Kia products. If, of course, you can get to one of their thinly-spread dealerships in a reasonable amount of time and/or distance.

 

Good call on that one! I actually did have an Eclipse Cross as a rental when my LS460 was in for the time it got rear ended. I took it back it was so awful.

 

I was at Tysons corner the other day waiting for the traffic to die down, and I walked into the Rivian store in the mall. Usually Rivian/Tesla people are no pressure, salaried. This guy was one of fhe most aggressive car salespeople I’ve ever seen. Would not leave me alone, I actually said “I’m just walking through the mall and wanted to look at this, I’m not buying anything and don’t need any questions answered” and he would not leave me alone. Standing over me and explaining every button, kept asking me for my email. Finally I just left. Worse than any dealership I’ve been into in a long time.

 

I don't believe in lying (and under the circumstances, I wouldn't consider it a lie), but here's what I probably would have given him if he had kept pressing me for my E-Mail.........

Isaidnotnow@lol.com

 

HAHA, that’s a good one.