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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 08:26 PM
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Tesla must think there is demand for a 3rd row as tiny as it is. My Highlander has a 3rd row that is about as useless it's been used maybe twice.

Glad to see the new Y has matrix headlights but will they ever actually be enabled.
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 08:30 PM
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There’s a demand for little kids for sure
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Tesla must think there is demand for a 3rd row as tiny as it is. My Highlander has a 3rd row that is about as useless it's been used maybe twice.

Glad to see the new Y has matrix headlights but will they ever actually be enabled.
The Sienna also has a third row that's pretty useless for most adults. I could fit back there, but it would be extremely uncomfortable. Usually we stick my daughter and her cousins back there
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 06:47 AM
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Glad to see the new Y has matrix headlights but will they ever actually be enabled.
The old Y had matrix headlights. They were added in '23. They are weakly enabled now, unless you consider the "light show" function they bring a big deal.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 11:38 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 02:47 PM
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Tesla Model Y Performance Refresh Is Coming Soon

Plus, a hotly-anticipated 7-seater and lower-priced versions are expected

  • Tesla plans to launch the Performance and seven-seater variants of its best-selling Model Y later this year.
  • The automaker is tight-lipped about what to expect, but the launch of the Model 3 Performance hints at what might change between trims.
  • Only the Launch Edition Long Range Dual Motor of the refreshed Model Y is available to purchase today, but we expect cheaper prices for the rear-wheel drive and standard Dual Motor trims.

Tesla's refreshed Model Y will begin rolling out to customers next month. Many folks are holding out on two hotly-anticipated trims—the Performance and seven-seater variants—which Tesla hasn't offered up for sale quite yet. Fret not, though, because Tesla execs have confirmed that both options are slated to launch later this year.

The news comes straight from the mouths of Tesla's VP of Vehicle Engineering, Lars Moravy, who joined the automaker's Senior Design Executive, Franz von Holzhausen, on an episode of Jay Leno's Garage earlier this week to discuss the refreshed version of Tesla's best-selling vehicle, the Model Y
"[W]e're starting with the launch edition and then all of the other variants," said Moravy. "The Dual Motor base edition, Rear-Wheel Drive, Performance and seven-seater options—those will come later in the year."

Tesla hasn't dropped specifics of what to expect with the Performance variant. If the refreshed Model 3 Performance is any indication, the Model Y Performance will likely come with a higher power output, reworked suspension, and some visual tweaks to differentiate it from the lesser trims. The full workup of the refreshed Model Y's improvements can be found here.

How much power will the Performance version get? Tesla has kept tight-lipped about that. Keep in mind that the Dual Motor variant is already no slouch, especially with all of that torque right off the line. But notice how Moravy described both a "base" and "launch" edition of the Dual Motor.

According to the exec, the base Dual Motor car gets 410 horsepower, and the launch edition of the refreshed Model Y, which Tesla is currently offering for a significant premium due to all of its extras, gets a bit more oomph with 455 horsepower and 430 pound-feet of torque. This lets the Dual Motor Launch Edition go from zero to 60 MPH in a respectable 4.1 seconds—about half a second slower than the outgoing Model Y Performance. The Performance should be significantly quicker, so expect a sizable power bump.

Now for the elephant in the room: the price.

Telsa took an interesting approach to launching the refreshed Model Y. The automaker began selling the refreshed variant of the car alongside the outgoing Model Y. If you want to purchase a new Model Y, it means ordering the Launch Edition, which costs a whopping $59,990—$8,500 more than the old Model Y Performance (though it does come with Tesla's Full Self-Driving software, your choice of wheels, the horsepower bump and a myriad of other goodies). Meanwhile, Tesla began the simultaneous switching of all its factories over to the new production line to begin deliveries of the refreshed Model Y in March.

The good news is that as the Launch Edition phases out, folks can expect the Model Y to become a bit more affordable. Pricing is likely to begin at around $46,990 for the base Dual Motor Model Y, according to the two execs, meaning that the RWD car will likely be even cheaper. Currently, the outgoing Dual Motor and RWD models are priced at $47,990 and $44,990, respectively, in the U.S.

In China, however, the refreshed cars are priced even lower. The RWD variant costs around $36,000 (263,500 CNY) and the Long Range Dual Motor around $41,500 (303,500 CNY). Historically, Tesla's vehicle prices in China for locally-built cars have been lower than in the U.S.

The Model Y's additional trims are expected to launch later this year, though the exact timeline isn't something that Tesla has shared just yet. Tesla may be looking to squeeze every penny it can out of early adopters, similar to the Cybertruck Foundation Series, while also thinning its herd of existing non-refreshed inventory.

But, even with a refreshed version of its best-seller, can Tesla pull itself out of a sales slump? With its CEO causing political controversy and more competition on the market than ever, Tesla has some real work ahead of it to stay on top. Sure, the Model Y Performance is a good start for folks who want a fast EV. But we still don't know whether the new upgrades are enough to keep Model Y sales growing. We'll have to wait until later this year to find out

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this is really worth watching as jay talks to two key engineers about it.
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 09:22 AM
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After seeing more pictures, especially with the black wheels I like it. If I was a model Y owner it would certainly tempt me to upgrade. I wonder if they can beat their sales record for Model Ys next year? I have heard quite a few people that owned Model Ys who didn't like the styling but bought it because of everything else.
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
After seeing more pictures, especially with the black wheels I like it. If I was a model Y owner it would certainly tempt me to upgrade. I wonder if they can beat their sales record for Model Ys next year? I have heard quite a few people that owned Model Ys who didn't like the styling but bought it because of everything else.
I bought it mostly "because of everything else". But I do like the styling of the pre-refresh. I'm tempted to upgrade, but I'm in for the long haul because so far my Y has been trouble free the last two years and 31k miles
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I bought it mostly "because of everything else". But I do like the styling of the pre-refresh. I'm tempted to upgrade, but I'm in for the long haul because so far my Y has been trouble free the last two years and 31k miles
I would suggest don't driving one then lol with the improvements I've heard in suspension and nvh, the temptation probably grows with a test drive. But with such low miles I wouldn't either, especially with the depreciation hit.
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
I would suggest don't driving one then lol with the improvements I've heard in suspension and nvh, the temptation probably grows with a test drive. But with such low miles I wouldn't either, especially with the depreciation hit.
I already have the new Model 3 with all the improvements, I experience them everyday on my commute. I do intend to test drive the new Y, but no, I'm not buying one. My Y is paid off, I don't want another car payment. And yes, depreciation hit would be pretty hard, I bought mine beginning of 2023, there has been significant price cuts since then. In fact, I paid roughly $14k less for my 3 if you include all the incentives, discounting and 0 percent interest on the loan
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
After seeing more pictures, especially with the black wheels I like it. If I was a model Y owner it would certainly tempt me to upgrade. I wonder if they can beat their sales record for Model Ys next year? I have heard quite a few people that owned Model Ys who didn't like the styling but bought it because of everything else.
This is kind of me as an owner of a '21 MYP. I don't hate the old MYP styling (my wife does), but I don't really like it either. Mine is dark grey with pretty dark tinted windows and I keep it very clean, so it looks pretty decent (side view is best IMO). I just really liked too many other things about Tesla's advantages over other EV brands at the time and I didn't want to drop that much cash on an S as my first EV (unsure how I'd like the transition) so I pulled the trigger. I now find myself intrigued by the updates in ride quality, ambient lighting, cooled seats, etc. so I am waiting to see the new MYP pricing and then will be comparing that to something like a '22 or '23 S long range. I also am not married to Tesla because I don't care about the charging network based on how we use the car, so I owe it to myself to look at other EV brands as well.

I do believe this new Y will outsell the outgoing model.
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
this is really worth watching as jay talks to two key engineers about it.
Agreed, very good review! Much more useful information compared to the reviews by the "popular" reviewers that can only talk about what they see and experience.

The engineers perspective is so much more interesting. It's like having "insider information".👍
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
This is kind of me as an owner of a '21 MYP. I don't hate the old MYP styling (my wife does), but I don't really like it either. Mine is dark grey with pretty dark tinted windows and I keep it very clean, so it looks pretty decent (side view is best IMO). I just really liked too many other things about Tesla's advantages over other EV brands at the time and I didn't want to drop that much cash on an S as my first EV (unsure how I'd like the transition) so I pulled the trigger. I now find myself intrigued by the updates in ride quality, ambient lighting, cooled seats, etc. so I am waiting to see the new MYP pricing and then will be comparing that to something like a '22 or '23 S long range. I also am not married to Tesla because I don't care about the charging network based on how we use the car, so I owe it to myself to look at other EV brands as well.

I do believe this new Y will outsell the outgoing model.
You as a buyer have to decide on your own what works for you and your family, but as someone who has owned and driven several different EV's (and reviewed them on CL), at this point in time, I wouldn't own any other EV except Tesla. But I do encourage everyone to go out and at the very least test drive other brands, there are many great ones out there
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 06:33 PM
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i think the now 'old' Y will depreciate even more badly than before as people jump to the new ones and the old ones have to be sold cheap.
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