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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
No problem I could manage like 1/100,000th of them lol. I wonder how much a single rack costs.
Like a bazillion gazillion dollars. Lol
Aka BIG money $$$.

Why the need for so much computing power?
Serving millions with Ai or what?

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Here's the system I manage, it's already a handful



And this is the biggest I would want my server room to be
Too many wires.
I'd go crazier than I already am. Haha
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This makes the systems I used to manage look like baby toys.

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1850967040070480228
Impressive amount of NVIDIA gear in there. But I do feel sorry for people of Memphis, it's definitely one of the least green data centers on the planet:

"To meet the current electricity demands at the site, xAI has installed nearly 20 gas turbines, including four large turbines with a combined capacity of approximately 100 MW. These turbines are capable of emitting nitrogen oxides (NOx), a key contributor to ozone formation, at rates that could make them one of the largest sources of NOx emissions in Shelby County. Despite this potential impact, xAI has not applied for air permits for the turbines, according to the coalition’s letter"

"In addition to air quality concerns, xAI's facility is drawing up to 1 million gallons of water per day from an existing water main"

https://www.environmentenergyleader....r-permit,48419
https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/


But hey, its probably worth it - to train a less woke version of ChatGPT for X.

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reminder, keep all politics off our community please
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Originally Posted by 703
Impressive amount of NVIDIA gear in there. But I do feel sorry for people of Memphis, it's definitely one of the least green data centers on the planet:

"To meet the current electricity demands at the site, xAI has installed nearly 20 gas turbines, including four large turbines with a combined capacity of approximately 100 MW. These turbines are capable of emitting nitrogen oxides (NOx), a key contributor to ozone formation, at rates that could make them one of the largest sources of NOx emissions in Shelby County. Despite this potential impact, xAI has not applied for air permits for the turbines, according to the coalition’s letter"

"In addition to air quality concerns, xAI's facility is drawing up to 1 million gallons of water per day from an existing water main"

https://www.environmentenergyleader....r-permit,48419
https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/


But hey, its probably worth it - to train a less woke version of ChatGPT for X.
I'm sorry but learning how to write effectively is so important. Turbines are "Capable of emitting NOX"... but do they?
Old Oct 29, 2024 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
So, we are all living in the costal states. I was in Louisiana New Orleans last weekend. Didn't see a single Tesla during my visit, just a few trump flags lol. Gas was also less than 3 dollars
​​​​​​ Louisiana also bans direct Tesla sales. I know someone in Arizona, and he told me they are all over the place. Same with NM, Nevada. I don't know if you consider Texas and Florida "coastal states", they are number 2 and 3 when it comes to Tesla registrations. I even have a friend in SC who told me they are popping up all over the place.

The F-150 is still the number one bought vehicle in the US, Tesla has awhile to go to get close to those sales numbers
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Like a bazillion gazillion dollars. Lol
Aka BIG money $$$.

Why the need for so much computing power?
Serving millions with Ai or what?



Too many wires.
I'd go crazier than I already am. Haha
Those wires are all managed now and not visible. This is when I first put the system in around 2022
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I'm sorry but learning how to write effectively is so important. Turbines are "Capable of emitting NOX"... but do they?
i don’t see the problem with their writing.

no when they are not in use, when there is sufficient electricity from the grid.

yea when they are. NOx is by product of gas turbines.
Old Oct 29, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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Impressive amount of NVIDIA gear in there. But I do feel sorry for people of Memphis, it's definitely one of the least green data centers on the planet:

I agree that burning any fossil fuel is bad the United States burns 20 million barrels of oil per day 67% of that is transpiration. Because this is Tesla they will make all data centers as energy efficient as possible and use as much renewable energy as possible. I do find it interesting that you are suddenly very concerned about burning fossil fuel, but good to see you recognize it as a massive problem.

BTW this is largely on Tennessee the state needs to up their game in renewable energy Tesla can't do everything.
"In addition to air quality concerns, xAI's facility is drawing up to 1 million gallons of water per day from an existing water main"
Doubt this is true the water is used over and over again.
But hey, its probably worth it - to train a less woke version of ChatGPT for X.
A.I. that is truthful is critically important. And Grok is becoming practically useful it can read MRIs for example, there are going to be many real world benefits Grok doesn't exist just to entertain.

Back to Tesla news


This comment I 100% agree with
I wish Elon hadn’t touted HW3 ability to do unsupervised FSD because normally you wouldn’t expect a five year old car to be able to do just released capabilities, and FSD would drive a lot of new car sales.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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I agree that burning any fossil fuel is bad the United States burns 20 million barrels of oil per day 67% of that is transpiration. Because this is Tesla they will make all data centers as energy efficient as possible and use as much renewable energy as possible. I do find it interesting that you are suddenly very concerned about burning fossil fuel, but good to see you recognize it as a massive problem.

BTW this is largely on Tennessee the state needs to up their game in renewable energy Tesla can't do everything.

Doubt this is true the water is used over and over again.

A.I. that is truthful is critically important. And Grok is becoming practically useful it can read MRIs for example, there are going to be many real world benefits Grok doesn't exist just to entertain.

Back to Tesla news

https://x.com/jonbbc/status/1851154649887227975

This comment I 100% agree with
I read somewhere that Elon was talking about retrofitting HW3 vehicles with HW4. Fact or fiction?
Old Oct 29, 2024 | 11:04 AM
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I read somewhere that Elon was talking about retrofitting HW3 vehicles with HW4. Fact or fiction?
HW4 physical interfaces are way different it won't work unless a new, custom HW4 or HW5 motherboard was made that interfaces with HW3 architecture meaning vehicle wiring. This is Elon saying FSD will work on HW3 hell or high water. Will it actually? Dunno.
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This is long long overdue
https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/blog/sta...e-connectivity

video on the subject

I'm surprised legacy auto hasn't at least taken a crack at simplifying connections/connectors there are so many it boggles the mind. Not picking on Toyota this is across the industry I simply have experience with their connection architectures
https://www.toyota-tech.eu/wire_harness_rm/rm06h0e.pdf
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pretty boring video but still interesting what tesla has done and the move to share it with the whole industry.
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200 people work at Tesla's AI team.

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Originally Posted by 703
i don’t see the problem with their writing.

no when they are not in use, when there is sufficient electricity from the grid.

yea when they are. NOx is by product of gas turbines.
without knowing how often the turbines are used, I don't see how this statement tells us anything about how green (or not) the site is. Is it 20 hours in a day? 10 hours? 30 minutes? This is just fear baiting language.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
I do find it interesting that you are suddenly very concerned about burning fossil fuel, but good to see you recognize it as a massive problem.

BTW this is largely on Tennessee the state needs to up their game in renewable energy Tesla can't do everything.

Doubt this is true the water is used over and over again.
The xAI data center does not have a fully closed-loop water design, it just evaporates the water and the water within the site needs to be replenished from drinking water rather than grey water, as TN does not have grey water for data center usage. It is already drawing 30k gallon of water every day, and its not even training at full blast - running at full blast is where the estimation comes from.




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