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Old Oct 5, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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My wife's main issue with replacing her current 3 with another 3 is the lack of stalks. She has no desire to get used to having no stalks
While I took to the buttons quickly, others may not. I will say there are times when steering wheel position makes the buttons difficult to access and even be sure which one to push.

Please tell your wife you are preparing for your new Ferrari next...
By the way, I flat out love our new M3P. The 300 mile range really hits the sweet spot, at least for me.
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
While I took to the buttons quickly, others may not. I will say there are times when steering wheel position makes the buttons difficult to access and even be sure which one to push.

Please tell your wife you are preparing for your new Ferrari next...
By the way, I flat out love our new M3P. The 300 mile range really hits the sweet spot, at least for me.
So let me ask you this, if you could go back knowing what you know now, would you avoid buying your M3P because it lacks signal stalks?
Old Oct 6, 2024 | 09:44 AM
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I would be surprised if the bank was at fault.
this has nothing to do with tesla. guy's a greedy idiot for never taking any of the money off the table.
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
While I took to the buttons quickly, others may not. I will say there are times when steering wheel position makes the buttons difficult to access and even be sure which one to push.

Please tell your wife you are preparing for your new Ferrari next...
By the way, I flat out love our new M3P. The 300 mile range really hits the sweet spot, at least for me.
I'm going to enjoy my R1S for a little longer
Old Oct 6, 2024 | 05:12 PM
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Tesla might need to work with stricter lenders on the sales side.....I'm starting to see Teslas with Raiders plates on them.
Old Oct 7, 2024 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
So let me ask you this, if you could go back knowing what you know now, would you avoid buying your M3P because it lacks signal stalks?
I would buy this car again right now. If my car were in an accident and totaled, I would click-click-click right now. Zero doubt.

Wanna hear something funny? Yesterday I drove our 2021 Lex RX450h F Sport. What a mess! That dash, steering wheel, etc. are freakin' confusing! I was lost. Buttons all over the place! Good Lord...

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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Tesla might need to work with stricter lenders on the sales side.....I'm starting to see Teslas with Raiders plates on them.
You would need good credit, over 700 to get the 1.99 percent they were offering, and I doubt a ghetto bro has that type of score. I don't know what to tell you about the Raiders plates, I haven't seen one Tesla yet with one, although if you go to SoCal, you'll see some tricked out Tesla's
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Again, I'm not saying that people for whom the lack of turn signal stalks doesn't diminish their enjoyment of the car are wrong, I'm just saying that the lack of stalks for me is a deal breaker that keeps me from having interest in the car. To me its an annoying cost savings measure sold as a "design flourish" and it would irritate me every time I went to use the turn signal.

Luckily there are aftermarket solutions, so if I really decided I wanted a Tesla I could (and would) have that done...I just find the fact that I would have to immediately modify the car just to make it work like every other car incredibly off putting. It reminds me of when I was a kid and I stuck stuff on my Power Wheels to make them like a "real car"
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Again, I'm not saying that people for whom the lack of turn signal stalks doesn't diminish their enjoyment of the car are wrong, I'm just saying that the lack of stalks for me is a deal breaker that keeps me from having interest in the car. To me its an annoying cost savings measure sold as a "design flourish" and it would irritate me every time I went to use the turn signal.

Luckily there are aftermarket solutions, so if I really decided I wanted a Tesla I could (and would) have that done...I just find the fact that I would have to immediately modify the car just to make it work like every other car incredibly off putting. It reminds me of when I was a kid and I stuck stuff on my Power Wheels to make them like a "real car"
I've never heard the term "design flourish", but to me the stalk delete is just a cost savings. It was pretty annoying when I drove the new Model 3, but I'm sure i would get used to it. I'm sure at some point, it will all be mind controlled. LOL
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Again, I'm not saying that people for whom the lack of turn signal stalks doesn't diminish their enjoyment of the car are wrong, I'm just saying that the lack of stalks for me is a deal breaker that keeps me from having interest in the car. To me its an annoying cost savings measure sold as a "design flourish" and it would irritate me every time I went to use the turn signal.

Luckily there are aftermarket solutions, so if I really decided I wanted a Tesla I could (and would) have that done...I just find the fact that I would have to immediately modify the car just to make it work like every other car incredibly off putting. It reminds me of when I was a kid and I stuck stuff on my Power Wheels to make them like a "real car"
And we all respect your choice, if you don't want a Tesla because of lack of stalks, buttons and other controls, then none of have any criticisms in this regard
Old Oct 7, 2024 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Wanna hear something funny? Yesterday I drove our 2021 Lex RX450h F Sport. What a mess! That dash, steering wheel, etc. are freakin' confusing! I was lost. Buttons all over the place! Good Lord...
Horrendous HID IMO especially the steering wheel. But some people love buttons everywhere I can't see them moving to a Tesla.
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I love the stalkless design. Still prefer the horn in the center instead of a button, but I've learned that I can just hit in the general area of the horn button with the joint of my thumb where it meets my hand, and that works. No need to push exactly on the horn icon. Would still prefer it been in the same spot as before. New version of the yoke has it in the center.
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Is this real?
Old Oct 9, 2024 | 04:51 AM
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assume that's rwd and that range is wltp (i.e., lame and not accurate, lol)
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assume that's rwd and that range is wltp (i.e., lame and not accurate, lol)
EVs need a better way to advertise range. Total ideal range is fine, but maybe add an efficiency curve or something



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