Lexus TX
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I have moved on as has everybody else who was a Lexus fan and appreciated their higher end vehicles. Look around, how many of us oldtime members here still are Lexus customers? Not many, and those that are still have older cars. Go to BMW, Audi and MB forums, TONS of previous Lexus customers there. How many former customers of those brands are here? Not many. Back in the glory days the LS, GS, SC and IS forums were full of ex-German car owners.
Goes to show how well they used to make cars and now they just don't really care.
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Prior to the LX being released in 1995. Lexus launched with the LS and ES, and the ES was just a quickly thrown together model that was demanded by the dealer network. Then came the SC and the GS.
The RX was also designed from the get go to be a Lexus, and it was sold in Japan as the Toyota Harrier but was designed alongisde the RX as a Lexus. At the time the RX was really a great vehicle too, as everybody else had truck based SUVs etc the RX felt extremely luxurious.
The RX was also designed from the get go to be a Lexus, and it was sold in Japan as the Toyota Harrier but was designed alongisde the RX as a Lexus. At the time the RX was really a great vehicle too, as everybody else had truck based SUVs etc the RX felt extremely luxurious.
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I guess when a regular Highlander can easily run $55k, and an NX can run into the $60k range, I just don't see $55k for a base TX, or even $69k for a mid level (500h) version as being ridiculous. I totally get if folks just don't like it, but for me the pricing is in line with what I would expect.
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I guess when a regular Highlander can easily run $55k, and an NX can run into the $60k range, I just don't see $55k for a base TX, or even $69k for a mid level (500h) version as being ridiculous. I totally get if folks just don't like it, but for me the pricing is in line with what I would expect.
The pricing for the TX makes sense in Toyota and Lexus' lineup, the problem is the product is just not a big enough upgrade from the GH to justify that price IMO. The pricing would be no problem if the product was what it should be.
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The question is what do you get? I can pay more for an E Class than my S Class cost...it all depends on options.
The pricing for the TX makes sense in Toyota and Lexus' lineup, the problem is the product is just not a big enough upgrade from the GH to justify that price IMO. The pricing would be no problem if the product was what it should be.
The pricing for the TX makes sense in Toyota and Lexus' lineup, the problem is the product is just not a big enough upgrade from the GH to justify that price IMO. The pricing would be no problem if the product was what it should be.
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I do agree though, LX does have the cachet even if it is outclassed in all the regular areas people usually go for (size, V8 power, room). It's the niche vehicle thing that makes them appealing, or part of it. It has no V8 which is unacceptable to me but I'm not a buyer anyway.
About 80k buying a Tahoe, even though it's too big for you etc... they feel expensive at least, and I'd say a hell of a lot more substantial than a rebadged Grand Hylander, too. But if you can't fit one in your garage, it's moot.
I sat in a new LX but never drove it, I'd like to but I don't want to waste the guy's time.
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I actually really like the new LX. Had the chance to check one out (though not drive it). The new one is definitely smaller inside than I had expected, but I really liked the layout. It could totally work for us. I need to check out towing capacities as it would be a nice companion for our trailer. I also sat in the new Sequoia, and it's was a lot better than I had expected, though the cargo compartment is the biggest drawback.
It's all just chatter though. I don't intend to own another 3 row vehicle.
It's all just chatter though. I don't intend to own another 3 row vehicle.
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No I get the LX, if I were going to buy a big BOF SUV I would consider one over an Escalade just because its not as big.
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I actually really like the new LX. Had the chance to check one out (though not drive it). The new one is definitely smaller inside than I had expected, but I really liked the layout. It could totally work for us. I need to check out towing capacities as it would be a nice companion for our trailer. I also sat in the new Sequoia, and it's was a lot better than I had expected, though the cargo compartment is the biggest drawback.
It's all just chatter though. I don't intend to own another 3 row vehicle.
It's all just chatter though. I don't intend to own another 3 row vehicle.
Interior was underwhelming as hell for top trim level and the ride was not great due to loss of RIS, most major issue was the huge step back in interior usability for me. No reason at all for me to consider trading
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I test drove the new Sequoia, drives nice but it's looks are very "small" next to mine. Doesn't really like like much more than a highlander from outside and I was really taken back by that.
Interior was underwhelming as hell for top trim level and the ride was not great due to loss of RIS, most major issue was the huge step back in interior usability for me. No reason at all for me to consider trading
Interior was underwhelming as hell for top trim level and the ride was not great due to loss of RIS, most major issue was the huge step back in interior usability for me. No reason at all for me to consider trading
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I really like the gen of Sequoia that you have. I don't get the Highlander vibes from the current one at all, but that is probably subjective. In fact, I really love the looks of it and styling wise, easily my favorite Sequoia. Did you look at a Capstone? I like the interiors, with the exception of the cargo area, but I could live with it.
Interior material and quality was good but for the price I would be unsure since it would be my tow car and a Range Rover used is the same cost...and those tow amazingly well with a better interior. For reference for how little it's used the Sequoia currently has 58k miles lol!
The styling is just weird to me. It visually looks "short" with a fat chin in person, the old one looks much "taller" and monolithic/imposing. The new one really just strikes me as a big HL or a lowered 2500 class truck. Very big front facia
My largest issue is now that I know how to work on stuff like I can I don't want new anymore. I would rather pay the same amount I would wise pay for higher end used car, I can't yet afford brand new best of the best so I buy one gen back best of the best.
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A++++++++ on the front seat comfort though, wow.
I like the LX but I just hate that they took so much weight and armor out of it for fuel economy.
Also, they sold nearly 7,000 of them in 2023. That is about double LX570 sales, nothing to write home about but sales have increased. This also may be because the Land Cruiser in that iteration isn't available here