Oil filter being substituted? YZZA1 is no longer?

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Oct 12, 2009 | 01:30 AM

prech

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Oil filter being substituted? YZZA1 is no longer?

Trying to order some 04152-YZZA1's for an oil change, when the Lexus of Pembroke parts site notifies me that:

"Part number 04152YZZA1 was superseded by part number 04152YZZA5"

As such, I dug around a bit and found the YZZA5's are a bit taller/longer than the YZZA1's.

Specs of YZZA1:
Product Height 2.64"
Product I.D. 1.1"
Product O.D. 2.76"

Specs of YZZA5 (same as YZZA2 and YZZA3):
Product Height 3.23"
Product I.D. 1.1"
Product O.D. 2.76"

I called up Sewell but wasn't able to confirm things. In reading up on the implications of using larger filters, generally the consensus is it shouldn't be problematic. One argument says the larger filter provides more filtration area, so can actually benefit particulate removal. On the other hand, larger area may prompt a lower pressure drop (bypass pressure), so I'm wondering if those in the know or with first hand experience might have some input?

Thanks!

Oct 12, 2009 | 10:42 AM

salimshah

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I cant comment on other details, but a larger filter does a poorer job in filteration over the life span to trap particulates. On the other hand it does a superior job in the flow rate. Keep in mind that almost chocked filter is preventing any OIL & Particulates to go through. For lubrication, I would take poorer filteration over a chocked flow.

The size difference you specified here really matters in clearances [to install/remove].... since id ond od are the same.

Salim

Oct 12, 2009 | 11:28 PM

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Get a WIX filter, they're just as good in quality. That's what I'm gonna do for my AC filter when the time comes around, since Toyota are being cheap and are selling half-assed filters.

Oct 13, 2009 | 04:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBooby

Get a WIX filter, they're just as good in quality. That's what I'm gonna do for my AC filter when the time comes around, since Toyota are being cheap and are selling half-assed filters.

+1, wish Toyota would use the same quality as WIX

Oct 13, 2009 | 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prech

You should be good to go!

Assume the new filter will be equal to the old one.

A filter is a filter is a filter. Using synthetic and replacing your filter (no matter if OEM or aftermarket) at the prescribed frequency are the key points!

Oct 14, 2009 | 05:17 AM

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I have an Acura and this is the case for my vehicle as well. They switched to the smaller version and stopped making/carrying the tall version. There was a mad frenzy of owners trying to buy up the last stocks of the tall filters from dealers all over.

I believe the change to the smaller filter is to accommodate newer cars that may require this smaller filter. Why not offer a filter that fits multiple cars than have one for every car, sounds like a win/win for the manufacturer!

I'll be checking my dealer to see if they still have the tall filters. I guess I'll be stocking up on them as well.

Oct 14, 2009 | 06:14 AM

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True for Acura and Honda. Had my filter on the CRV shrink, both the OEM Honda non-OEM.

Do not remember on my TL, I quit using the Honda filters a long time ago. But aftermarket filters are the same, they also shrunk.