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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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Car failed the hi nox area of emissions. Ive replaced the cts and pcv since. Just wondering if I should pull codes even though i'm NOT getting any cel's. Car is driving fine otherwise and idling under 1k. Noob question but i'm a bit unfamiliar with toyota. I thought cels usually came on after something went bad.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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When a vehicle fails for high NOxs its most likely the EGR, EGR modulator, or the VSV that controls the EGR modulator. The Catalytic converter also can contribute to NOX failures but should be the last option.

Do some tests on the EGR components to see if they test out fine.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Thanks. I'll have to do a more thorough check. I did check for codes and got nothing.

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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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high nox means your running lean. Change your fuel filter and retest. That would be my first step if it hasnt been done.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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I'll give that a try as well. I wish i didnt have to test everytime to figure out if everything i've changed actually worked.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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You can also try a gallon or 2 of alcohol in the tank after you change the filter... high nox can ultimately mean bad cats, but i start with the easy fix first.

CO gives you one free retest for every paid test. Does GA do that?
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Got my free retest today and failed Nox only lol. Which is rather annoying considering I have no codes.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Yeah its not always something that will cause a CEL. most cars arent that smart.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Well i guess my next question would be, how do you test for a bad cat
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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How many miles are on the car? What year and is it a 2JZ or 1UZ?

Hows the numbers look on the HC's and CO? If the HC's and CO are high, your CAT is shot.

But like mentioned before, this should be the last option cause CATs are so expensive to replace
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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these can cause high nox: bad o2 sensors, dirty maf, egr problems, bad/cheap gas.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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post up the readings on all the gases.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Like I said its only the NOx area i'm having issues with. 92 Sc4 btw. Sorry fot the crap cel pic

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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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I'll put money on it that its your EGR modulator or the EGR valve itself.

HC's and CO are really low so the CAT still good. I see this all the time when Toyota/Lexus FAIL NOXs.

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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 03:58 PM
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EGR is a good bet since its a sc4. I would still change the fuel filter too, just to be sure.
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