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Old May 15, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Need advice......I have the opportunity to buy:

2020 fully loaded RCF or a 2019 RCF 10th Anniversary for $10K less. Both obviously are brand new. Thoughts?

I love the idea of owning an Anniversary car (unique), I own a 40th Anniversary 370Z, but there is also the allure of having the newest iteration.

I am struggling......
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Old May 15, 2019 | 09:30 AM
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I would go with the 2020 since it has improvements. You get shorter gearing so it will feel more peppy at lower speeds, has some weight reduction (about 50 lbs), the 5 HP is negligible, the bushings have been stiffened up for more feel and feedback, the exterior has some nice refreshes.
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Old May 15, 2019 | 09:39 AM
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IMHO, it really depends on what is most important to you. If having a limited production rare automobile is important, than by all means the Anniversary Edition. I'm not a fan of mat paint, however. But, if your more interested in performance and features (like launch control) than the 2020 is for you. If resale is important - the jury is out on the long term value of the Anniversary Model.

$10K will buy a lot of groceries

If I was in your shoes, no question the later car.

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Old May 15, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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I like the look of the paint but also have concerns of the upkeep. I do like having a more obscure vehicle....the RCF is already in that class - the 10th even more so. And...$10k is a good chunk of change. But having the newest version is tempting. Thanks for the reply.
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Originally Posted by Dribble
I like the look of the paint but also have concerns of the upkeep. I do like having a more obscure vehicle....the RCF is already in that class - the 10th even more so. And...$10k is a good chunk of change. But having the newest version is tempting. Thanks for the reply.
What is the price difference between the two? Which one can you get a better deal on? Also, the 10th anniversary comes standard with the carbon/TVD package (optional on 2020) so you might want to compare it with an equivalent carbon/TVD 2020 RCF for apples to apples.
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Old May 15, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dribble
Need advice......I have the opportunity to buy:

2020 fully loaded RCF or a 2019 RCF 10th Anniversary for $10K less. Both obviously are brand new. Thoughts?

I love the idea of owning an Anniversary car (unique), I own a 40th Anniversary 370Z, but there is also the allure of having the newest iteration.

I am struggling......

Wow. That's a dilemma - but a nice dilemma to be in. You really con't go wrong. Personally, I love the look of the matte nebula gray with the blue accents. Given the exclusivity, I think the $10k price difference outweighs the performance features on the 2020 (gearing and launch control). It's theoretically possible that the anniversary edition will hold more value over time due to its rarity. If the color of the anniversary edition isn't your cup of tea, then the added performance upgrades of the 2020 might become worth the $10k. Also, my first reaction to the headlight changes on the 2020 are meh. I prefer the triple beam style on the 2019 and earlier. That obviously is personal preference, and the new cosmetic changes may grow on me soon. One other thought -the anniversary edition has back chrome window trim rather than the full black on the 2020. It looks nice, but I prefer the full black.

Good luck. Excellent choice regardless!
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Old May 15, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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10th anni car brand new for $10k less is a hellofa deal frankly on a very rare car... You can add the better track edition rear gears and exhaust down the road if you want some quickness added, and still be within that $10k cost savings on a car that will hold its value a tad longer than a standard 2020 car. That would be the route I'd go if the choice was in my hands...
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Old May 15, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by theman
10th anni car brand new for $10k less is a hellofa deal frankly on a very rare car... You can add the better track edition rear gears and exhaust down the road if you want some quickness added, and still be within that $10k cost savings on a car that will hold its value a tad longer than a standard 2020 car. That would be the route I'd go if the choice was in my hands...
Can you add the 2020 gears? Of course anything can be done with time and money but I was going to come down firmly on the new one for the gearing alone. The current set is just not my favorite set up and it's key to how the car feels when you are driving normally and not standing on it.

Also, my suggestion is a terrible financial one lol. If asking the question, what would I pay right now for shorter gears in my F, the answer is not 10k. The answer is 2020 Supra, or something, maybe I'm spelling that wrong

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Pick up a 2020 Track Edition. Get the rare car and the 2020 model. Win win!
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Originally Posted by Dwight047
Pick up a 2020 Track Edition. Get the rare car and the 2020 model. Win win!
I think he is only contemplating the standard '20 vs '19 anniversary edition. I would say, a 2020 Carbon/TVD with the improvements is hands down the better choice, if the price difference is not too big. If they are far apart in pricing then the '19 anniversary edition is a good choice.
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Old May 15, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Apone
Can you add the 2020 gears?
Lexus is very good about getting a lot from a little investment... The track edition went with a standard Torsen for example, and many of the TE mods actually cost the car less to be built over the standard optioned cars, the exclusivity of the model and the CC brakes are the only real items driving the price up. I bet if you look at the total parts list expenses across the board, Seats w/cool&heat, TVD, active wing, etc. etc the regular car has more parts costs. Even things that were once used on the LFA were repurposed to recoup in production costs on the new car(brakes).
Lexus used identical rear gears across many of their models for cost savings. It is way cheaper to produce a ring and pinion in a different ratio, or use a set they already have from another application in another market, than to issue a whole new rear center section casting AND a new gearset. I bet the new gears go into the current carriers, just like a few toyota/lexus of old, and the way current speed, rpm, and abs data is gathered the gear change probably won't even need a tune mod.
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It is only the overall final drive ratio that is shorter in the 2020, which can easily be swapped into a 2015 - 2019 RCF as the transmission is the same. Just a shorter final drive from 2.97:1 to 3.19:1.

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Lexus is very good about getting a lot from a little investment... The track edition went with a standard Torsen for example, and many of the TE mods actually cost the car less to be built over the standard optioned cars, the exclusivity of the model and the CC brakes are the only real items driving the price up. I bet if you look at the total parts list expenses across the board, Seats w/cool&heat, TVD, active wing, etc. etc the regular car has more parts costs. Even things that were once used on the LFA were repurposed to recoup in production costs on the new car(brakes).
Lexus used identical rear gears across many of their models for cost savings. It is way cheaper to produce a ring and pinion in a different ratio, or use a set they already have from another application in another market, than to issue a whole new rear center section casting AND a new gearset. I bet the new gears go into the current carriers, just like a few toyota/lexus of old, and the way current speed, rpm, and abs data is gathered the gear change probably won't even need a tune mod.
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Old May 15, 2019 | 08:44 PM
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You guys are all awesome. I don’t even have an RCF yet and you guys are treating me like family. Thank you sincerely. I have for months read posts drooling over your cars and comments.

To to be clear. Both cars are equally equipped. Both have TVD, carbon roofs and spoilers. Apples to apples except for year and editions.

The 2019 I can get for $10k cheaper than the 2020.

To the the dude who said get the track edition and the anniversary Lol. Too rich for my blood. I’m leaning towards the 2019. Rare car and $10k is $10k.
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Old May 16, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dribble
I’m leaning towards the 2019. Rare car and $10k is $10k.
Darn right!
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Old May 16, 2019 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by theman
Darn right!
Rare and $10k all day long. That's a high end exhaust and wheels/tires, screw groceries. Lol.
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