Ohlins versus KW (Variant 3) Coilovers
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Ohlins versus KW (Variant 3) Coilovers
So to make a long story short, after 5000 miles of use I'm a bit disappointed with the RSR Sport-I coilovers. I don't like the way the RC-F bounces all over the place. I've tweaked and adjusted them at least 10 times. I'd like some coils to rebound without bouncing multiple times before stabilizing the car. I mainly do canyon runs with a seldom track day but my RC-F is driven on the highways the majority of the time.
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
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Possibly your spring rate is too low? I’m guessing you cannot change springs? I’m not familiar with RSR.
But other factors:
Is your ride height set really low? If it is low, can you/do you want to raise up some?
All coilovers will bounce if you have it set super low so there’s no stroke travel.
Shoot for 26” or higher as a measurement from ground to the peak of wheel arch. Make sure you’re “plumb”when taking the measurement.
Is the shock adjustable for rebound?
Can you increase pressure?
If it’s set too high the car will sorta be jittery quick bounces.
Too low and the bounces will be long and slow.
Hope that helps in the mean time until you get a better set up.
I have the RR Penskes. Tad noisy in the rear on bumps due to no rubber bushing, but If you don’t mind that, it’s a great set up. Guessing for non-track guys, Penske prolly a little hardcore.
But other factors:
Is your ride height set really low? If it is low, can you/do you want to raise up some?
All coilovers will bounce if you have it set super low so there’s no stroke travel.
Shoot for 26” or higher as a measurement from ground to the peak of wheel arch. Make sure you’re “plumb”when taking the measurement.
Is the shock adjustable for rebound?
Can you increase pressure?
If it’s set too high the car will sorta be jittery quick bounces.
Too low and the bounces will be long and slow.
Hope that helps in the mean time until you get a better set up.
I have the RR Penskes. Tad noisy in the rear on bumps due to no rubber bushing, but If you don’t mind that, it’s a great set up. Guessing for non-track guys, Penske prolly a little hardcore.
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I would do your own research w/dampers on the market versus depending on other peoples OPTION to fit your platform build...
So to make a long story short, after 5000 miles of use I'm a bit disappointed with the RSR Sport-I coilovers. I don't like the way the RC-F bounces all over the place. I've tweaked and adjusted them at least 10 times. I'd like some coils to rebound without bouncing multiple times before stabilizing the car. I mainly do canyon runs with a seldom track day but my RC-F is driven on the highways the majority of the time.
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
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i wouldn't expect a smooth ride in those coilovers . they are stiff. they aren't bouncing around like a lowered civic with cut springs. they are just rebound fast and stiff. you will really feel it on any roads that aren't almost perfectly smooth.
if you want a smooth ride, look into RSR
if you want a smooth ride, look into RSR
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So to make a long story short, after 5000 miles of use I'm a bit disappointed with the RSR Sport-I coilovers. I don't like the way the RC-F bounces all over the place. I've tweaked and adjusted them at least 10 times. I'd like some coils to rebound without bouncing multiple times before stabilizing the car. I mainly do canyon runs with a seldom track day but my RC-F is driven on the highways the majority of the time.
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
Now having said that, can anyone chime in on;
A. Their experience(s) with either the Ohlins or KW coils on the RC-F.
and..
B. How would you rate them for daily street use?
Thanks!
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I had KW V3 and PSS10 on my previous 2007 G35S, had Tokico adjustable Illumina shocks and Koni sport yellow shocks plus H&R springs on my previous 2000 Maxima, and have Ohlins DFV 16K/12K from FIGS on my current ride 2017 GSF.
From my experience no aftermarket suspensions can be as comfortable as OEM due to those much stiffer performance springs. Of course, I could tune softer on those adjustable performance dampers to get more comfort but I get bouncy and unsettle ride, as a result, comparing with OEM. (The stiffer, somewhat irritating springs need more damping power to be calmed... Then, firmer dampers reduce ride comfort significantly!!!)
In my opinion,
Performance : Ohlins = KW V3 > PSS10
Damping/Comfort : Ohlins > KW V3 > PSS10
Ohlins is noticeably more comfortable than KW V3, especially at low speed/city drive.
In addition, I had Tokico adjustable Illumina shocks and Koni sport yellow shocks plus H&R springs on my previous 2000 Maxima. When I replaced Tokico with Koni, I suddenly found Koni was more stable and also more comfortable!!! Since then I'm only interested in European dampers like KW, Ohlins, Bilstein, etc.
In 2011 when my wife changed from 2000 Maxima(Koni+H&R) to 2010 M35X(stock), she said new M35X was unstable and difficult to drive(of course, M35X is still more comfortable). Similarly, in 2017 when I changed from 2007 G35S(PSS10) to 2017 GSF(stock), I didn't like to drive my GSF very much(even though GSF's dampers were SACHS already) until I put Ohlins on it...(Thank you, Mike from FIGS )
From my experience no aftermarket suspensions can be as comfortable as OEM due to those much stiffer performance springs. Of course, I could tune softer on those adjustable performance dampers to get more comfort but I get bouncy and unsettle ride, as a result, comparing with OEM. (The stiffer, somewhat irritating springs need more damping power to be calmed... Then, firmer dampers reduce ride comfort significantly!!!)
In my opinion,
Performance : Ohlins = KW V3 > PSS10
Damping/Comfort : Ohlins > KW V3 > PSS10
Ohlins is noticeably more comfortable than KW V3, especially at low speed/city drive.
In addition, I had Tokico adjustable Illumina shocks and Koni sport yellow shocks plus H&R springs on my previous 2000 Maxima. When I replaced Tokico with Koni, I suddenly found Koni was more stable and also more comfortable!!! Since then I'm only interested in European dampers like KW, Ohlins, Bilstein, etc.
In 2011 when my wife changed from 2000 Maxima(Koni+H&R) to 2010 M35X(stock), she said new M35X was unstable and difficult to drive(of course, M35X is still more comfortable). Similarly, in 2017 when I changed from 2007 G35S(PSS10) to 2017 GSF(stock), I didn't like to drive my GSF very much(even though GSF's dampers were SACHS already) until I put Ohlins on it...(Thank you, Mike from FIGS )
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