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I’ve seen at least one RCF owner, one GSF owner, and another ISF owner use these pads.
I mostly do street driving and commuting on the RCF so I never felt the need to get track ready pads that costs hundreds of dollars. First time I changed the pads I used Brembo pads P83154N. A few people used them on the forum and was recommended so I tried them.
The Brembo pads came in less than $100 for the front pair and I found once they were broken in I got a good bite. The problem was that under frequent hard braking they would give up. Even a 20min canyon run was a no no. As an everyday pad they were great and other than the fact it was not capable of repeated stops they also dusted a lot.
So after reading a few F owners actually using the DFC performance pads on light track work and read their operating temps went as high as 1400 deg, I wanted to give them a shot. One member sold me when they said they used them on their ISF and reminded them of Stoptech 309s (which I had on my previous ISF …loved the bite and ability to produce multiple hard stops).
I decided to see how they would do on my wife’s car (Acura ILX) which was due for a rear pad change. Had it for a few weeks and they do bite hard and definitely stand up to repeated hard stops. I also noticed they don’t dust like performance pads that I am used to and are quieter than I thought (actually not a squeal).
So now I’m up to change the brake fluid, front rotors, and pads for the RCF and see how well they hold up. I’m getting them installed this Saturday…then do a few bed in runs. On Sunday I’ll go for a little canyon run and let you all know what I think. If these are as good as the Stop Tech 309s I’ve had then it looks like we have a streetable semi-track / autox pad that can be had for $100.
here is the website:
https:/www.dynamicfriction.com/products/brake-pads-active
GSF owner on the track using the pads:
https://youtu.be/cdFPBoS97e4
Friction rating GG Brembo rotors for $150 at Rock Auto!
Looking forward to the review. A lot of parts enthusiast review on does not pertain to me but I still enjoy reading reviews and how they change our vehicles performance.
Question: what do you mean by the brake pads would give up?
I haven’t been able to take my car to do hard twist and turns for a prolong time. I recently changed out all my rotors (brembo) and pads (powerstop z26) and for regular street driving I do not notice a difference besides no more brake squealing and brake dust (if so, very minimal).
Looking forward to the review. A lot of parts enthusiast review on does not pertain to me but I still enjoy reading reviews and how they change our vehicles performance.
Question: what do you mean by the brake pads would give up?
I haven’t been able to take my car to do hard twist and turns for a prolong time. I recently changed out all my rotors (brembo) and pads (powerstop z26) and for regular street driving I do not notice a difference besides no more brake squealing and brake dust (if so, very minimal).
what i mean by "giving up" is brake fade under extreme-ish circumstances. definitely not during just regular street driving. Malibu has some really good canyons roads with many tight and long turns that go for miles. driving spiritedly would produce a lot of heat that go beyond the temps allowable by a non-performance pad (like the Brembos I got). A performance pad (like Tom's, Project Mu, or Endless) or even a semi-performance pad like the DFC, Hawk HPS, or Stop Tech 309s can do more repeatable hard braking. Since I never plan to track the car I went with something that can hold up to repeated stops better but not go overboard as to reach track speeds. This was the balance I was hoping for with the Brembos but sadly after 1-2 canyon drives they were not up to snuff. We'll see if the DFCs are up to it this Sunday when i bed her in and take her out (giggity).
They seem to be like Stop Tech 309 clones as my wife's car bites so hard now compared to the FF rated street pads she had before....and they get better the more you heat them up. Again...this is only street driving.
For the track (especially for a high speed track) I recommend other options that are proven by RCF member here.
Just picked her up and did a quick bed in. She bites so much harder now (giggity). I also noticed the shop didn’t use the supplied Pennsoil dot 3 brake fluid and used a Valvoline Dot 4 which was nice. I’ll keep bedding it in and go for a little canyon run tomorrow to give impressions between the old brembos and the DFC.
Well, so I took her out on a spirited run. Canyon runs don't go beyond 60mph where I am at but lots of twists and turns to give the brakes a lot of work. These brakes bite so much harder than the previous brembos I had and are definitely comparable to the Stop Tech 309 Sports I had on my ISF. It gave me hard repeatable braking with no fade just like the Stop Techs did but these did not make a squeal OR dust nearly as bad. I was very surprised. In normal street use I do notice the first braking is a tad soft but any braking after the initial brake bites hard.
Having said that, I have read people in other forums with different cars and they state that on high speed tracks it is not sustainable. There was one Camaro owner I believe that disintegrated his pads. Having read that maybe these pads can only do auto-x and track duty speeds that don't exceed triple digits. As a street / performance pad I am pleasantly surprised.
I loved my Stop Tech Sport 309s on my ISF. They bit hard enough to activate ABS, had great hard braking repeatability, and were still safe when it was cold. The problem with them was that they did squeal and dust like mad....with the DFC, I have all the advantages and none of the disadvantages. I'm shocked these pads are only $100-$130 (depending on where you buy them).
As far as how they wear in a few thousand miles only time will tell....but as for now this is one of the best street pads i've owned. Now that I've replaced the car with more competent tires and brake pads the car starts to shrink around me a lot more. She doesn't seem so heavy and is more communicative. I've had a strange ownership experience where i am appreciating the car more and more.
Glad you were able to take it out for a spirited run. Thank you for answering and explaining the brake fad question I had in a earlier post. Sounds like these pads will suit you well for your needs. I did notice that after I switched from OEM to Powerstop pads it doesn't bite down as hard, which is fine for my daily driver needs.
What tires were you running before and what do you have now?
Glad you were able to take it out for a spirited run. Thank you for answering and explaining the brake fad question I had in a earlier post. Sounds like these pads will suit you well for your needs. I did notice that after I switched from OEM to Powerstop pads it doesn't bite down as hard, which is fine for my daily driver needs.
What tires were you running before and what do you have now?
After an initial brake these pads bite hard and have not been able (so far) to get them to fade a little after repeated braking,
I bought the car used so it came with all season tires from a brand I am unfamiliar with (Lionhart). I switched them to performance summer tires Yokohama Advan Apex and they grip much closer than the Michelin PSS I was used to when had my ISF. I still prefer the Michelin PS4s though.
I took her out again on Saturday and this time I was really trying to heat them up. No fade. No noise. The hotter they got the more bite I got. I got out after a good 30 min cruise and very little dust. This is shocking compared to the Stop Tech 309s I had on my ISF and the brembo pads I had previously on my RCF.
I'm seriously a little shocked how good these pads are.
There is one facet I have not been able to review and that is longevity. They maybe a great performing pad but if they last only 6 months with no track work then they are useless. We'll see how many miles I get on these before the wear sensors get to them,
I took her out again on Saturday and this time I was really trying to heat them up. No fade. No noise. The hotter they got the more bite I got. I got out after a good 30 min cruise and very little dust. This is shocking compared to the Stop Tech 309s I had on my ISF and the brembo pads I had previously on my RCF.
I'm seriously a little shocked how good these pads are.
There is one facet I have not been able to review and that is longevity. They maybe a great performing pad but if they last only 6 months with no track work then they are useless. We'll see how many miles I get on these before the wear sensors get to them,
After an initial brake these pads bite hard and have not been able (so far) to get them to fade a little after repeated braking,
I bought the car used so it came with all season tires from a brand I am unfamiliar with (Lionhart). I switched them to performance summer tires Yokohama Advan Apex and they grip much closer than the Michelin PSS I was used to when had my ISF. I still prefer the Michelin PS4s though.
Originally Posted by cvt
I took her out again on Saturday and this time I was really trying to heat them up. No fade. No noise. The hotter they got the more bite I got. I got out after a good 30 min cruise and very little dust. This is shocking compared to the Stop Tech 309s I had on my ISF and the brembo pads I had previously on my RCF.
I'm seriously a little shocked how good these pads are.
There is one facet I have not been able to review and that is longevity. They maybe a great performing pad but if they last only 6 months with no track work then they are useless. We'll see how many miles I get on these before the wear sensors get to them,
Longevity of those pads will be interesting. Hopefully they’ll last longer than 6 months. How many miles do you average per month and how much spirited driving do you do?
Previous owner on my car put on some unknown brand (unknown to me at least) summer tires and they still have a good amount of tread left. I’ve put a little over 12k miles since I bought the car late April of 22 but I will be switching over to all season tires next as I drive mine year round. I was alternating driving it with my truck but my truck has been down for a while now.
Longevity of those pads will be interesting. Hopefully they’ll last longer than 6 months. How many miles do you average per month and how much spirited driving do you do?
Previous owner on my car put on some unknown brand (unknown to me at least) summer tires and they still have a good amount of tread left. I’ve put a little over 12k miles since I bought the car late April of 22 but I will be switching over to all season tires next as I drive mine year round. I was alternating driving it with my truck but my truck has been down for a while now.
I use the car on the weekends so i barely get 300 miles a month. I try to hit the canyons every weekend but that doesn't always happen.
Yeah my RCF with Yokohama Advan Apex and DFC pads felt like my ISF with the PS4S and stock pads on the same canyon roads. Very confidence inspiring. And to think my ISF is around 200lbs lighter than my RCF. Are the Yokohamas and the DFCs the best combo in the market as far as performance? Definitely not. But it's way more than you need on the streets.If you ever go on a high speed track day or compete there are better options.