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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 05:44 PM
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Has anyone looked into a methanol injection set up for our cars? We have the bung on charge pipe. What would be needed?
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Is200tnc
Has anyone looked into a methanol injection set up for our cars? We have the bung on charge pipe. What would be needed?
I was thinking to relocate the headlight washer to the charge pipe and change thebwasher nozzle to mist nozzle
haha but now the fuel injection system could be a big jump and it could be the bigest thing that keepmus away from power.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Is200tnc
Has anyone looked into a methanol injection set up for our cars? We have the bung on charge pipe. What would be needed?
We will need to get the full methanol injection kit, but I also think that some additional tuning will be needed for this add on.

I have faith in our 8AR, but like you said more research will need to be done and I also hope that more tuning companies emerge with new ways to reflash our ECU, so we can have them do data logging as well as live dyno tuning, that’s when we will get the full potential of the motor. As of now we are slowly making progress and I am thankful for Tony and TTI for doing the work!
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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Stage 2 Plus! My traction light is blinking on 2nd gear on a dry road, sweet!
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 09:25 PM
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Damnit sheddy...lol. Toni just sent me mine and I'm stuck at work while u get to play with the upgrade.lol. looks fun. I will load mine after work and do some test runs and report back.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Is200tnc
Damnit sheddy...lol. Toni just sent me mine and I'm stuck at work while u get to play with the upgrade.lol. looks fun. I will load mine after work and do some test runs and report back.
Haha it’s a lot more fun! I can’t imagine how your car will react, definitely keep us posted!
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheddy
Haha it’s a lot more fun! I can’t imagine how your car will react, definitely keep us posted!
wanna see result on dyno
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Zahabriel
wanna see result on dyno
ti be fair we need to give the ecu fee days to adept as its knowen with denso ecu...but it us way much better than stage 2
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nuke
ti be fair we need to give the ecu fee days to adept as its knowen with denso ecu...but it us way much better than stage 2
well noted and thx formthe knowlege.




i expect to see 250-255 whp from sheddy

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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Zahabriel
well noted and thx formthe knowlege.




i expect to see 250-255 whp from sheddy
anytime thanks to Tony Stark

i expecte to make more than that as I have BMS intake and a full exhaust system (very loud) lets see give it few days of normal driving first
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 04:07 AM
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I am hoping to be in the 250-255whp range as well! Like Nuke said I’m going to drive it around for a couple days to get adjusted and I’ll schedule the dyno run for next weekend. The car feels awesome!
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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Hats off to Tony for S2+ car is pushing harder and a lot more fun to drive!
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 01:36 PM
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I understand what you’re saying, but I still say they are 2 completely different motor designs. The BMW still uses an air to air intercooler, their turbo layout and manifold design is different, their fuel injection system is different etc.
BMW’s are underrated from the factory and sorry to say, but even the 320i with a tune still makes more than our 8AR.
The turbo layout shouldnt effect power, the left side doesn’t give more power than a right side mounted turbo. The water/air intercooler isn’t going to effect power not unless the inlets are smaller in diameter, restricting flow. They’re fuel system isn’t better we also have port injection in addition to direct injection, much better than only direct injection. The only thing that would directly effect our injection system is if our injectors are smaller, which I doubt.

If I’d choose anything it would probably be the integrated manifold. Especially if the manifold diameter is smaller. HOWEVER the integrated manifold is permenant, if tony plans on 350-400whp then the integrated manifold really ISN’T the problem.

Finally, the 320i/N20 engine has the same compression as the 328i/N20. The 320i will throw down the exact same power as the 328i because it’s the EXACT same engine. The only thing holding back the 320i is that they’re detuned by BMW as well as a smaller diameter exhaust.

Ill put it it this way, everything goes by compression in terms how aggressive the engine is, tuning aside. If the 8ARFTS wasn’t as strong’ then the engine compression would be lower more like 9.8 or 9.3. In the forced Induction world lower compression engines can handle more boost because the engine isn’t as hopped/turned up. Try to run 25 psi on a 13.1 C/R, the engine would blow instantly. Whereas a 9.3 C/R engine can easily handle 25 psi.

It just looks like I need to look into the injector size and intercooler inlet size versus the n20.

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Anyone else seen this?
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Is200tnc

Anyone else seen this?
Yea Matt mentioned it to me that they are working on something new for next year.

Did you load the Stage 2 Plus??
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