Notices
Performance Forced induction, intakes, exhausts, torque converters, transmissions, etc.

GS400 SRT intake LIES!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 09:16 PM
  #1  
angus's Avatar
angus
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 802
Likes: 10
From: WA
Default GS400 SRT intake LIES!

So I know the SRT intake is supposed to be the "best" I have owned one for over 8 years on my other car and I just bought a used one for the new GS4.

I decided to dyno my car today and since it was slow there we got experimenting a little.

I have OBX headers, hi flow cats, 2.5" X-pipe and catback.

I proved today that it's ALL LIES and hype. Dyno'd the car with the intake and made 226whp. So then I pull the intake and "race ecu" out and put the stock pipe back in with a cone filter on the end. Car then made 218whp. I made 3-4 pulls with each setup and it was within less than 1HP. I should not even be surprised since Mo at SRT lies about everything else...

Where is the 30hp and 4o ft lb of torque we were promised?????

Probably hiding with all the money he's stolen from people.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 10:21 PM
  #2  
Danny365N's Avatar
Danny365N
Pole Position
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

In that case I'm glad I just bought the Weapon R intake, for the difference in price I can get a safc and actually make that power gain.

Did you ever get that RMM grill on?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 11:38 PM
  #3  
NorthStyle's Avatar
NorthStyle
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
From: FL, UK & Deutschland
Default

Damn bro... even with or without the intake, with dyno readings from 218-226 with headers makes me think that there's something wrong with your car. Those numbers seem extremely low.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 12:51 AM
  #4  
angus's Avatar
angus
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 802
Likes: 10
From: WA
Default

The AFR is really rich, leaner with the intake but with the stock intake it was dipping into the 10's at WOT - I'm gonna install an SAFC and go back, there's easily 20-30hp missing.

The other possible issue is that this is a JDM engine - they are supposed to be rated 10ho less but I always thought that was from exhaust manifolds and ECU tuning.

I'm curious now to compare the pistons and cams.

I'm using the original USDM ECU and the headers so who knows.

What are other guys dyno-ing at?
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 12:59 AM
  #5  
angus's Avatar
angus
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 802
Likes: 10
From: WA
Default

I guess I didn't mention that this was a notoriously low reading mustang AWD dyno and they say that 225hp is about 310 @ crank on their dyno.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 08:04 AM
  #6  
tmf2004's Avatar
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 21,942
Likes: 64
From: FL
Default

something definitely seems wrong.. If you look into member Rock-a-Lex old threads he has 3 different tunes with different bolts ons and the SAFC and making somewhere in the 286 range on the dyno... sounds like you need the SAFC for a tune...
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 08:49 PM
  #7  
rwheelz's Avatar
rwheelz
Pole Position
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 332
Likes: 1
From: MT
Default

If you look for my old thread, I did before/after dyne's and the SRT intake/ECU works as advertised.
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 01:30 AM
  #8  
angus's Avatar
angus
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 802
Likes: 10
From: WA
Default

Well I am going to get one of my old SAFC's in the car and see what I can get out of it.

If I could dyno 286hp that would be incredible!
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

 Brett Foote
story-7

GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

 Brett Foote
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 05:50 AM
  #9  
GSJake's Avatar
GSJake
Lexus Test Driver
CL Folding 200,000
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,153
Likes: 0
From: Packer Country
Default

Originally Posted by angus

The other possible issue is that this is a JDM engine - they are supposed to be rated 10ho less but I always thought that was from exhaust manifolds and ECU tuning.

I'm curious now to compare the pistons and cams.
Was the 4.0/4.3 offered in Japan?
Your numbers are well below the average though for sure.
Let us know what the safc yields..
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 07:18 AM
  #10  
brainsurge's Avatar
brainsurge
Pole Position
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 220
Likes: 12
From: Germany
Default

am i the only one that is wondering if the obx headers have to do with the low output?
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 11:30 AM
  #11  
angus's Avatar
angus
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 802
Likes: 10
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by brainsurge
am i the only one that is wondering if the obx headers have to do with the low output?
No, I would wonder it too if the OEM headers were not so bad. If anything the headers might be responsible for a shift or loss in Tq.

What I am going to do is dyno my other GS4 and see what it does.
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2015 | 01:30 PM
  #12  
Danny365N's Avatar
Danny365N
Pole Position
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by GSJake
Was the 4.0/4.3 offered in Japan?
Your numbers are well below the average though for sure.
Let us know what the safc yields..
Yes they definitely had them in Japan
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 02:37 AM
  #13  
gsean400's Avatar
gsean400
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 882
Likes: 4
From: az
Default

Originally Posted by angus
No, I would wonder it too if the OEM headers were not so bad. If anything the headers might be responsible for a shift or loss in Tq.

What I am going to do is dyno my other GS4 and see what it does.
Your whole exhaust is the problem, Backpressure isnt the word here but more exhaust velocity. Either way your exhaust is now, not flowing properly.. With your headers, 2.5 inch exhaust and free flowing cats you lost a VERY good amount of tq. I didnt look to much into it but your 02 sensors are probably thrown off and its now effecting your A\F. Your srt intake did its job by providing you some power, throwing your hp and tq numbers back and slightly above stock. Witch i would believe was from the srt "race" ecu. I personally think the srt intake is a waste of money and you will net greater results with any other cold air intake with a proper tune. Im speaking from experience. When i went with 3 inch straight pipes on my previouse gs4 i couldnt even peel out from a stop. I believe its the headers and the exhaust thats making your numbers look low. I personally think without the safc the exhaust mods are useless. And when you get it properly tuned you will see very good numbers.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 03:20 AM
  #14  
tmf2004's Avatar
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 21,942
Likes: 64
From: FL
Default

i was thinking of this earlier that the guys with PPE headers that unless your cats are free flowing the headers IMO defeat the purpose of letting the engine breathe.. less restricted headers going into restricted cats, into straight/X-pipe, into resonators then into mufflers. Seems like Angus setup would be better with everything "free flowing"... has anyone measured the OBX compared to PPE?
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2015 | 06:22 AM
  #15  
speedaddic's Avatar
speedaddic
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,252
Likes: 5
From: Austin,TX
Default

Post up the dyno sheets
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:49 PM.

story-0
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus/Toyota models with the lowest 5-year depreciation rate.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 12:19:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

The LC hasn't even disappeared from the Lexus lineup yet, and we're already seeing signs of an explosive market.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-06 09:25:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

Slideshow: comparing the pricings, specs, power, fuel economy, fun-factor, and features of the GX 550 Luxury+ and TX 550h+ Luxury.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-19 13:44:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

Slideshow: 9 best Lexus models you can buy for half price and 1 you should avoid

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-19 12:01:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

Here's everything you need to know about the latest NX.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-19 11:56:59


VIEW MORE