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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Thought you guys might want to check this out. Alternative universal turbo system for V8 engines with less room to play with under the engine bay.

www.ststurbo.com
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Yep... familiar with their concept (patent pending, I believe).

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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It is a very neat design. I considered this for my RX300, but I plan to use a different kind of turbo, http://www.hiperturbo.com/ that does not use an oil line.

I had a friend at my track who installed a system like this in his Camaro...no lag whatsoever.

Only issue I have with this is in the vicious rain we get down here you have to be careful about water issues.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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a lot of domestics use this system..but i just dont' understand how there won't be any lag.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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A turbo works better closer to the motor. The hotter the exhaust gas, the more exhaust volume. More exhaust volume = greater velocity through the pipes = faster spool. The further down the exhaust line you go the cooler the exhaust gets. Which gives you less velocity and a slower turbo spool. It will work but its not nearly as good as most manifold placed turbos. It works for confined / tight spaces but I wouldnt do it. And all the intercooler pipes run under the car would be a mess to deal with.

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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here is something we saw similar to this at HIN on a 350Z

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KiPod
A turbo works better closer to the motor. The hotter the exhaust gas, the more exhaust volume. More exhaust volume = greater velocity through the pipes = faster spool. The further down the exhaust line you go the cooler the exhaust gets. Which gives you less velocity and a slower turbo spool. It will work but its not nearly as good as most manifold placed turbos. It works for confined / tight spaces but I wouldnt do it. And all the intercooler pipes run under the car would be a mess to deal with.
many of these systems do not require an intercooler at all since the air is cooled by the time it reaches to the front of the engine.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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I saw this on a mustang forum (corral.net i believe) and they all pretty much thought it was a neat concept, but pretty much useless due to the reasons already listed by KiPod. It will add boost yes, but not as much as you'd expect. Cheaper/easier/more efficient to go blown via s/c.

Boy i miss the sound of my v1
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ElitistK
many of these systems do not require an intercooler at all since the air is cooled by the time it reaches to the front of the engine.
A guy at my school has a Silverado SS with this system. He was pretty disappointed with it. He had major heat issues with the intake charge and ended having to do an intercooler in the end. It helped but that defeats alot of the purpose of this system which is supposed to cool enough by the time it gets to the intake manifold so you don't need an intercooler.
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I would wonder how much the kit would run .... probably 10k. We have enough engine space on the GS400/GS430. Or a Rotrex superchager would do the trick
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JPI
I would wonder how much the kit would run .... probably 10k. We have enough engine space on the GS400/GS430. Or a Rotrex superchager would do the trick
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I remember when the Rotrex supercharger was first introduced like a decade ago...always thought it was interesting technology. Wouldn't mind having one on my car
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranman
Wouldn't mind having one on my car
Your wish might become true very soon
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JPI
Your wish might become true very soon
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Let us know when that time comes, especially me sir .
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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that is what mark (Automan) is running. THe HKS Rotrex kit with the SRT intake combination

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by carbongs
that is what mark (Automan) is running. THe HKS Rotrex kit with the SRT intake combination

HKS doesn't make Rotrex.
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