BMW X1 2.0L vs current NX 350h

-similar size and similar power. New X3 approaching RX size. Although the Lexus hybrids particularly the 350h is such a gem.
-BMW fully loaded $21000 cheaper
-both now have 5 year warranty in Australia with replacement car for servicing or warranty repair.
-Only BMW has an upfront 5 year maintenance plan making servicing over 5 years cheaper than Lexus
-reputation of reliability is an issue and have owned BMW before.
Will definitely not keep it beyond warranty.Although extended BMW warranty is cheaper than a Lexus extended warranty!
-Lexus tech needlessly stupid (electronic door locks) and cool features like intergrated drive recorder kept for Japan. 3D camera woeful in Toyota products. Tesla like drive recorder standard on BMW.
-After 3 Lexi (including my current RCF and NX) dealers have been needlessly rude in accessing test drive or even assessing my current NX for a trade in. My impression is that Lexus vehicles are in short supply and dealers just not interested.
- interesting vehicles such as NX 450h, LBX morrizo or IS 500 just not available in Australia. 450h can technically be ordered but an absolute unicorn.

 

I know it’s available on the NX but it’s not available on the 450h+

Lexususa dot com doesn’t even have it as an available option on build it now.

 

Wonder why they don't have it in Florida. They have it available in California.

 

I’m waiting for my 350h Luxury to set sail to me (literally). It’s a Japanese build and scheduled to set sail on11/25. Probably won’t get here until end of year, if then. I would just go to another dealer but nobody has much in stock. But, I have been checking out the competition for sure. I like the BMW X1 and there is an M35i available locally similar in price to the Lexus. It’s $58000 before any rebates and negotiation. I could probably get real close to the Lexus but we already have a 22 RX450h so I know I really would like another CVT. Only negative I’ve found on the NX is its exterior looks and the run flats. From the side it kind of looks like the Ford Pinto from years ago. I hate run flats for ride and sound quality. But, along with the maintenance cost the BMW also is not a hybrid and without CVT. Toss in that it also has the Start/Stop feature that I hate. As much as I would like the looks and sportiness (312bhp) BMW I will probably end up staying with the NX. Have had 3 other Lexus that have never seen the service department.

 

its available on 2025 450h+ lux trim but not fsport, not sure why. 450h+ also doesn't have the option for electric folding rear seats or heated rear seats. Rav4 prime has heated rear seats so questionable why 450h+ can't have it. Not that I would use either option much but would have been nice to have on the top spec model.

For the most part Lexus has moved to very similar interior designs for all their newer models, good if you like it bad if you want something different. I loved how nice my GS was over the IS and ES. During that time when I got loaners I hated the old NX. My new NX isn't as premium but I like it a lot better than the old gen and the current loaner I have that is a base nx250 I hate and feels severally underpowered and not put together as well as my 450h+. I also like the push button handles, people just don't like the change but it makes more sense to push something to open the door. its also the only silver think on the door that would make sense to be a button or lever to open the door. My only complaint about the hand is it should be single pull to override not double pull. They should have the option to change that to one pull as that the only unintuitive thing about the handles. Guess its meant to make people get used to e-latches and force people to use the safety sense when they exit the car.

My wish for Lexus if they continue with this universal interior design is to add higher quality seats/adjustability for higher trims(maybe massage) and soft close doors should be standard. Could be wrong but don't believe any trim of the RX or TX have those. only GX and LX have massage seats and I believe only the LS ever had a soft close door option.

 

To each his own and if you like it great but I don't think it looks very good at all. The crystal **** I mentioned sometime back is a good upgrade for those who wan a better look IMHO. Here is reference to the crystal lighted ****.: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/nx-...l#post11653428

Peace and Goodwill.


YMMV,
MidCow3

 

I have the non-illuminated version and it is nice. Just haven't yet decided which I will permanently use.

 

People complaining about the RFT now remind me of when some buyers were outraged when CD players were beginning to disappear from new builds. Before settling on the NX350h, I was seeing the same thing in other forums about the lack of spare or the "goo kits" that are coming with hybrids instead of donuts. I guess if I lived in the middle of the desert with no easy access to AAA, I'd be more concerned. However, that's not my situation and I DO, in fact, have AAA; I'm calling them to come help me out regardless because I'm a female who mostly travels alone through densely populated areas and the thought of leaving my vehicle, especially at night, is a no-go. I have a separate car for work, so anywhere I'm traveling in my Lexus will be for leisure/pleasure. If I have to wait for a tow, so be it.

Perhaps the road noise from the RFT is noticeable, but I won't let it ruin my experience. When I'm due for a new set of tires, I'll just replace them with standard tires and move on with my life. I actually really like the storage compartments in the cargo area, as I carry a few smaller items with me that tend to shift around in the back. I haven't been driving as long, but I also have never needed to use my spare. In fact, I think the one in my current vehicle is probably dry-rotted.

 

In theory, not including a spare, tools and even the compressor and goo kit on the car with Run Flat Tires makes it lighter so it gets better Fuel Efficiency. Where the NX 350H gets all plastic inserts under the rear card area the NX450h+ gets foam and plastic. Even though,we Run Flat Tires, we looked online for the part numbers bought the compressor and goo kit, the Jack, tire iron, the pilot bolt and other plastic aligning tool to be able to take off the tires and place them back on. The new cars also don't use Nuts any more but Bolts.

In my 50 years, I have experienced 4 flat tires the first 25 years and 0 flats the second 25 years. Improved tire construction as well as Real Time Pressure readings allow you to detect leaks earlier. My 2005 Rx, I never had to use my Spare except when they rotated the tires during its 19 years of daily commute driving. I have had nails and screws in the tires which were detected by the pressure sensors and repaired the tires but no flat tires. I think if I were driving across country like Doug DeMuro, I would buy a spare tire for my NX and throw it in the back cargo area.

 

Between my wife and I driven over 1.5 million miles. When working was putting 40,000 miles a year on my vehicles. Probably about ten slow leaks which I pumped up using a bicycle pump I always keep in my trunk. Would drive to a tire place and would get them fixed. A year ago on my RX tires with only 4,000 miles on the tires had a blowout.

 

Do you think this has anything to do with the (quality) of the tires in the newer cars ? Or was it purely an accidental event ?

 

No. The blowout was on my 2017 RX which had Pirelli Scorpion high rated tires. I was on the interstate and something according to another driver who hit the same thing and also had a blowout and was an NX said something flew off the back of a pickup truck.

 

yeah, I really don’t understand why they did the door locks. What was the upside other than it’s different?

You have to explain it to every new passenger. They made them electric and they left an emergency use where you pull twice to unlatch. Why go to all the double expense of an electric and a manual just when you could’ve left it as a manual with a pull instead of a push?

 

My 10 year old granddaughter figured out the door entry and exit immediately. I never had to say a word to her because it's intuitive. Who are these passengers that aren't as smart as a fifth grader?

 

Because 5th graders don't have 20+ years of using door handles the same way? In an accident, your (adult) passengers are going to go with muscle memory to get out.

Part of my comment was about the fact that they implemented both manual and electric but going in the opposite directions. What was the point of that complexity.