Card key
I am collecting my new NX450h+ Takumi next week.
I have been told about the single key fob issue but when I look at the detailed spec that I printed out at order, I see an item “Card Key” listed.
I also seem to remember that some users have described receiving this recently.
Can someone tell me exactly what it does?
Can it completely replace a key fob?
How many orders come with this; is it just a Takumi feature?
The sales person I signed the order with is on holiday, due back tomorrow, but the dealer has sent details for bank transfer today. Must admit I am a bit reluctant to pay before seeing the car.
I have been told about the single key fob issue but when I look at the detailed spec that I printed out at order, I see an item “Card Key” listed.
I also seem to remember that some users have described receiving this recently.
Can someone tell me exactly what it does?
Can it completely replace a key fob?
How many orders come with this; is it just a Takumi feature?
The sales person I signed the order with is on holiday, due back tomorrow, but the dealer has sent details for bank transfer today. Must admit I am a bit reluctant to pay before seeing the car.
It works exactly like a regular fob (including the emergency mechanical key), except it has no buttons. That means all the touch features work (open, lock doors, open/kick rear hatch, start and drive car). What it can't do is open/lock doors & hatch from a short distance away (ie when you are approaching the car but haven't reached it yet).
It works exactly like a regular fob (including the emergency mechanical key), except it has no buttons. That means all the touch features work (open, lock doors, open/kick rear hatch, start and drive car). What it can't do is open/lock doors & hatch from a short distance away (ie when you are approaching the car but haven't reached it yet).
Now just to find out if it actually comes with the car or is restricted as one fob.
Many thanks for this. I had been completely confused with digital key ( on a cellphone ) and card key, thinking they were the same thing. Great relief if I get 1 fob but also a card key. My experience with cellphone connectivity, particularly cellphones using Low energy Bluetooth, has not been good. Constant security updates have caused massive issues with medical equipment so dreaded the same with car access.
Last edited by Sounds; Aug 5, 2023 at 07:38 AM.
Just picked our 2024 NX450h+ up yesterday. We informed that we are only getting ONE key now-world wide production delays. 2nd to be mailed to us OR our dealer (our choice) when available. FYI- cars purchased in Nov/Dec of '22 are still waiting... Card could come in handy for two driver households. Auto start with app viable I assume.
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Just picked our 2024 NX450h+ up yesterday. We informed that we are only getting ONE key now-world wide production delays. 2nd to be mailed to us OR our dealer (our choice) when available. FYI- cars purchased in Nov/Dec of '22 are still waiting... Card could come in handy for two driver households. Auto start with app viable I assume.
Last edited by Billst; Aug 21, 2023 at 09:33 AM.
Just picked our 2024 NX450h+ up yesterday. We informed that we are only getting ONE key now-world wide production delays. 2nd to be mailed to us OR our dealer (our choice) when available. FYI- cars purchased in Nov/Dec of '22 are still waiting... Card could come in handy for two driver households. Auto start with app viable I assume.
Well, I'll say this about that. There still are supply chain issues out there, as I deal with them myself regularly. Working in IT, in the "before times" we could order computers and network gear and typically get them in days or at worst a week or two. If it took 3 weeks it was an angry call to the vendor. These days we still jump for joy if we can get anything within a month. Sure, you can go to Best Buy or Costco or where ever and get whatever they have on the shelf and walk out same day, there is stuff out there being supplied in a timely fashion but when you are looking for specific equipment (our company has global pricing contracts with equipment vendors so I need to order based on the equipment listed in the contracts) there can still be delays. In 2021/22 we were waiting typically 3 to 8 months for Dell, and 6 to 15 months for Cisco equipment depending on unit ordered. It has gotten a lot better, but still no where near what things were like in the before times. It still takes a month or two to get Dell systems and perhaps 3 to 6 months for Cisco. I hear some chip foundries are catching up, but when you have equipment that uses many different chips, it just takes one to mess up a good plan.
I also see the effects on the auto industry. I work right beside a GM pickup truck assembly plant. I can see when they have parts shortages because every inch of the plant grounds, and every single parking lot and vacant field in the city fills up with pickups. Hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of pickups will sit for sometimes up to 2 months, its like counting waves in the ocean. Then, eventually I guess they get the parts because then the 2 mile long trains start to show up and block the road at the crossing for a long time while the train goes back and forth a dozen times dropping/picking up groups of autocarrier train cars at the GM rail yard and the parking lots full of pickups slowly empty over a few weeks. In the last 2 months or so it seems parts are ok for GM pickups anyway because only the rail yard parking lots are in use and I always have to take the long way around to avoid the train crossing. My son also works nearby in the seat assembly plant that supplies GM. Half the time its slow or stopped because GM just can't take the seats, then its rush rush rush overtime every seat is precious.
But if things do continue to improve as I've been seeing, I think by next year the key allotment issues should mostly go away. Call me an optimist (or worse
) but as much as we like to blame faceless corporations, I can't see Lexus purposefully holding back keys just to see how many desperate suckers will buy spares instead. Now, do more keys than really are needed possibly show up as spare parts at some dealers, sure. But that I attribute more to just supply chain planning issues. Same reason why some people can wander into a dealer and score a new unspoken for NX that is already in transit while someone elsewhere that wants the exact same car has been waiting 6 months and has no idea when it will arrive. Trying to maintain a decent supply of spare parts is of equal importance too. Just ask all those people that have had to wait months to get their collision damaged cars repaired because parts can't be had. Maybe if Elon was running Lexus we'd all get the keys we are supposed to, but you would not be able to buy a single spare. Add in all the disruptions due to labour and natural disaster issues, sometimes I am amazed things are still mostly working. For the Cambridge plant in particular, I don't know how the keys get shipped to the plant, but if they come in from Asia by ship thru Vancouver, well a big chunk of western and northern Canada is on fire right now, and they've had lots of labour issues at that port. So much can go wrong. Given all the weather related issues going on globally in the northern hemisphere, I am pleasantly surprised that summer in these parts (which I'm not too far from Cambridge) has actually been quite mild and pleasant when the smoke isn't hanging over us.
I also see the effects on the auto industry. I work right beside a GM pickup truck assembly plant. I can see when they have parts shortages because every inch of the plant grounds, and every single parking lot and vacant field in the city fills up with pickups. Hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of pickups will sit for sometimes up to 2 months, its like counting waves in the ocean. Then, eventually I guess they get the parts because then the 2 mile long trains start to show up and block the road at the crossing for a long time while the train goes back and forth a dozen times dropping/picking up groups of autocarrier train cars at the GM rail yard and the parking lots full of pickups slowly empty over a few weeks. In the last 2 months or so it seems parts are ok for GM pickups anyway because only the rail yard parking lots are in use and I always have to take the long way around to avoid the train crossing. My son also works nearby in the seat assembly plant that supplies GM. Half the time its slow or stopped because GM just can't take the seats, then its rush rush rush overtime every seat is precious.
But if things do continue to improve as I've been seeing, I think by next year the key allotment issues should mostly go away. Call me an optimist (or worse
) but as much as we like to blame faceless corporations, I can't see Lexus purposefully holding back keys just to see how many desperate suckers will buy spares instead. Now, do more keys than really are needed possibly show up as spare parts at some dealers, sure. But that I attribute more to just supply chain planning issues. Same reason why some people can wander into a dealer and score a new unspoken for NX that is already in transit while someone elsewhere that wants the exact same car has been waiting 6 months and has no idea when it will arrive. Trying to maintain a decent supply of spare parts is of equal importance too. Just ask all those people that have had to wait months to get their collision damaged cars repaired because parts can't be had. Maybe if Elon was running Lexus we'd all get the keys we are supposed to, but you would not be able to buy a single spare. Add in all the disruptions due to labour and natural disaster issues, sometimes I am amazed things are still mostly working. For the Cambridge plant in particular, I don't know how the keys get shipped to the plant, but if they come in from Asia by ship thru Vancouver, well a big chunk of western and northern Canada is on fire right now, and they've had lots of labour issues at that port. So much can go wrong. Given all the weather related issues going on globally in the northern hemisphere, I am pleasantly surprised that summer in these parts (which I'm not too far from Cambridge) has actually been quite mild and pleasant when the smoke isn't hanging over us.
I’m guessing you may already have your car by now? I just wanted to throw out there that I put a deposit on my ISF the day it was announced in 2007 (the car came out in 2008) and I also put a deposit on the NX 350h luxury eight months before I got it. I always do my research and feel pretty confident in that. So far I have not been disappointed. Good luck either way!










