Maintenance Discuss common Lexus maintenance questions here.

Mobile 1 extended performance vs. Mobile 1 synthetic...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-22-07, 09:04 PM
  #1  
Lexus88
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Lexus88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Mobile 1 extended performance vs. Mobile 1 synthetic...

Lets hear from the oil experts here... anyone know if there actually a difference between mobile 1 extended performance vs. their regular synthetic?? a friend told me its just marketing and that they're just trying to get more money from you when you buy the extended one... thanks!
Old 08-22-07, 09:14 PM
  #2  
GSteg
Rookie
iTrader: (15)
 
GSteg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 16,017
Likes: 0
Received 78 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

If it's marketing from Mobil, then I believe that's a pretty bad marketing skill.

If anything, Mobil makes money when you buy their products. So extending the oil change interval to twice the length will only result in the consumer buy less oil. The price for the EP isn't that much higher than the regular syn. oil. That is of course, if the performance of the EP isn't better than the regular syn.

I've ran both before. Honestly, no difference except the EP left a bigger hole in my pocket. In fact, I dont even run mobil 1 anymore since the price of a quart is more than that it's worth.

I've gone with Pennzoil platinum this time because its cheaper and works fine for me.
Old 08-23-07, 06:43 AM
  #3  
Lexmex
Super Moderator
 
Lexmex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 17,240
Received 161 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

I agree, marketing.

Yet going back to difference, I know people here who still swear by Mobil 1.

However, after they switched to this extended performance Mobil 1...they started looking for another oil. They notice MPG went down but consumptions is just as much as it was before.

I used the extended performance M1 last year just before changing out to German Castrol 0W30 (I am now using Liqui Moly 5W30 since I can't get the Castrol anymore down here), and both are an improvement over M1.

I can't say that the extended performance was that great either as I found myself using additives to avoid consumption issues I was having with the product, though my power and MPG seemed to be about the same as when I was using the non-extended version (which isn't sold down here anymore).
Old 08-23-07, 09:13 AM
  #4  
csaxon
Driver
 
csaxon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: confusion
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Here's the back of a Mobil I can from the 1970's. Notice the 25,000 mile oil change interval. If you change your oil every 3000 to 5000 and use oil that meet Toyota/Lexus specs, then save your money and use conventional.

Old 08-23-07, 09:46 AM
  #5  
kingofire
Advanced
 
kingofire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 664
Received 51 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Virgin Oil Analysis of EP 5w30:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...rue#Post765838

Virgin Oil Analysis of Mobil 1 0w20(sorry thats the closest viscosity i found)

http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...c=&Search=true
Old 08-23-07, 09:51 AM
  #6  
kingofire
Advanced
 
kingofire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 664
Received 51 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

You can see the values side by side here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...rue#Post923014

You are better off buying the T&SUV kind, seem the most potent. The 0w20 is hardest to find.
Old 08-23-07, 10:16 AM
  #7  
TunedRX300
Lexus Champion
 
TunedRX300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 2,447
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Mobil changes its formulation over time, the EP used to have higher TBNs.
I have switched to German Castrol 0w-30, the only Mobil oil I still use is SL version of the 0w-20, which is a better oil than the current SM version
Old 08-23-07, 05:05 PM
  #8  
Lexus88
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Lexus88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

the links seem to be in a foreign language... can someone translate to english please?
Old 08-23-07, 05:40 PM
  #9  
RocketGuy3
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
RocketGuy3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 1,564
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Lexmex, are you saying that the EP Mobil 1 is actually worse than the regular Mobil 1 synthetic?
Old 08-23-07, 07:04 PM
  #10  
Lexmex
Super Moderator
 
Lexmex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 17,240
Received 161 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RocketGuy3
Lexmex, are you saying that the EP Mobil 1 is actually worse than the regular Mobil 1 synthetic?
If I had to choose, I would easily take the regular M1 over the EP or take something like an M1 0W40, my personal favorite of the M1 group based on experience, though as TunedRX300 mentioned the SL version of the M1 0W20 is also excellent from what I have seen written about it. However, with the EP and regular it is almost like I am reliving the changeover with Trisynthetic and Supersyn M1, and I am sure some of you remember that one from a few years back.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tmf2004
Maintenance
11
07-22-08 08:46 PM
socal300
Maintenance
7
07-14-08 11:48 PM
jcjr
RX - 1st Gen (1999-2003)
5
12-30-07 04:54 PM
Lexicon1
Maintenance
8
01-26-07 08:45 PM
CareyPJ
Performance
1
02-18-05 11:08 AM



Quick Reply: Mobile 1 extended performance vs. Mobile 1 synthetic...



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:23 AM.