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Old Jul 22, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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Default Sales data LS500 vs LS460 & earlier

Found an interesting site:
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...exus/lexus-ls/

LS500 has picked up the pace, but not as much as they had hoped

Suggests major change will happen soon (within next couple of years).
Either dropping the model or a redesign.
Methinks dropping is more likely.

I've also seen that rebates are already offered for LS500.



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They're not going to drop the original Lexus lol
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I doubt it also but it makes me think of the fate of the Q45.
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I doubt it also but it makes me think of the fate of the Q45.
Totally different time and different company.
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I say they have the LC/GS F engine as an OPTION for those who still truly want a V8.

Lexus needs to be a little more flexible in giving customers more engine options, esp in their top of the line model.
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Originally Posted by jzqj55
Found an interesting site:
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...exus/lexus-ls/

LS500 has picked up the pace, but not as much as they had hoped

Suggests major change will happen soon (within next couple of years).
Either dropping the model or a redesign.
Methinks dropping is more likely.

I've also seen that rebates are already offered for LS500.


What are the worldwide sales numbers?
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Originally Posted by jzqj55
I've also seen that rebates are already offered for LS500.
Horsepucky! Where are you seeing rebates?
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Horsepucky! Where are you seeing rebates?
I guarantee there are rebates and good deals to be had. They have to to compete with the huge rebates on cars like the S Class, etc.
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The Canadian spec models are being offered with $5K off for cash customers.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I guarantee there are rebates and good deals to be had. They have to to compete with the huge rebates on cars like the S Class, etc.
Sorry, but there aren't. There may be some scattered dealership incentives being offered, although I have yet to see one, but those are not "Lexus rebates". There are currently no Lexus USA or Lexus manufacturer's rebates being offered on the LS 500.

If you find one, please provide a link.
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Originally Posted by dsc07
Sorry, but there aren't. There may be some scattered dealership incentives being offered, although I have yet to see one, but those are not "Lexus rebates". There are currently no Lexus USA or Lexus manufacturer's rebates being offered on the LS 500.

If you find one, please provide a link.
Lexus often has rebates that are hidden, and theres a lot of front end money on the LS. Regardless of whether or not there are advertised "rebates", you can get $8-10k off of an LS500 I am absolutely certain.
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Priority 1 is profit
No successful company maintains products that don't make money
If their best thinking went into the LS500, minor changes aren't going to save it.
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It appears the site does not break down other countries down by models
However, US is the largest market for Lexus, so it's doubtful the figures from other countries would change the picture
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Horsepucky! Where are you seeing rebates?
This is from Automotive News about 1 month ago.
I didn't see the LS500 listed in the latest issue, but I somehow doubt thats because of sales surge.

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That's not a model-specific rebate, it's the general "military/graduation" rebate that Lexus offers across all models to anyone who fits their military/graduate definition.

My response was to the implication of this thread, that LS 500 sales are so bad that after only 5 months, Lexus has been forced to offer rebates to get sales numbers up, and that is simply not the case. As I posted on another thread, LS 500 sales are holding up better than the rest of the segment.

If we look at the average monthly sales for Q1 vs. Q2 for the segment, we get the following:




Moreover, I threw out Jan & Feb for the LS since available qty's were limited and went with the March number, which was the highest month of any and puts the LS at a disadvantage right out of the gate. As you can see, the LS handily beat the competition in Quarter over Quarter sales. The lone exception was the 7 Series, which had May sales nearly double the previous month and more than double the remaining 5 months average, so there is clearly a statistical aberration there.
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