suspension question
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suspension question
Here on the East coast just about all of the new LS's will be AWD. I looked at a LS 500 and a LS 500 F-Sport and I saw that they both come with adaptive variable suspension but the LS said the word AIR in the suspension and the F-Sport did not. Are they the same system just tuned differently or are they different suspensions?
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The base suspension has a driver select mode but not air suspension and is standard on both the base car and the F Sport. The Adaptive Variable Air Suspension is optional on the base car and on the F Sport but on the F Sport it requires the Performance Package.
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Plus, its new and under warranty, and how many people are going to buy one and keep it to 100k miles?
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Where do you get this?
Never happened to me..and I've spoken to numerous techs and service managers around the country...
Last edited by xfea; Feb 26, 2018 at 12:14 PM.
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All you have to do is look around the forum, air suspension systems are definitely more problematic than coil suspension systems. Not a unique problem for Lexus. Having had both, its worth the risk.
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Just pushing back from broad statements like “Don't buy air suspension....it's not if it breaks, it's when!” and even your assessment of it being a “risk”.
Those are specious statements.
A coil suspension will have fewer issues than an air suspension?
Probably.
Just as a solid rear axle will have fewer issues than an independent rear suspension.
Or a car without air conditioning will have fewer issues than a car with aircon.
Any system will be subject to failure.
The air suspension on LEXUS is pretty damn rock solid.
Anecdotal accounts of folks asking for help doesn’t cut it.
Having owned Range Rovers - now THAT is an air suspension that has issues!
If the maintenance and repair of a component / system is outside your resources, so be it.
But I don’t think that carries over to the reliability / performance of component - just your unwillingness / inability to address it.
I remember Grandpa bemoaning all the new fangled stuff on cars. Power windows, heated rear window, able to adjust the rearview mirrors from the inside...“Just more stuff to break!”
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Lol your grandpa and my dad. I remember him talking about “more stuff to break” well into the 2000’s. But Dad, you can’t find a car WITHOUT power windows!
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I agree with using OEM. However, Consumer Report put a nice article out on OEM verses aftermarket parts. It stated that the same OEM vendors that auto makers outsource their business to put out their own products as well. Remember: Lexus doesn’t make their own auto parts; their parts are made by other vendors. For example, KYB makes the pneumatic air struts for Lexus Air Suspension vehicles exclusively. That’s why you can’t order pneumatic air struts directly from KYB. The consumer has to weigh his decision as to if he’s keeping his vehicle or selling it. If the owner decides to sell his vehicle in the future, then he may consider keeping the vehicle stocked with OEM parts. It will add value to the vehicle. Ultimately it his decision.
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