Notices
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Valve cover gasket - fix or no?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 12:43 PM
  #1  
Allusuc's Avatar
Allusuc
Thread Starter
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 21
From: CA
Default Valve cover gasket - fix or no?

Hi all. I just got my car back from the dealership. They said my rear brake pads are 2mm/10mm so I gotta replace them soon.

they also said I have a small leak from the valve cover gasket. I watched videos on YouTube and it looks like a very long long long job, but not too difficult. Do you guys recommend me doing this? I haven’t seen the leak myself but I’m assuming I’d replace the rubber seals for both right and left sides.

or do you recommend me to just tighten the bolts? If so, what torque amount to use? 53lb maybe?

Or should I just ignore it all together because it’s a small leak and I can just continue to add oil to it.

Any advice would be welcomed!
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 12:44 PM
  #2  
Seattle SCone's Avatar
Seattle SCone
Advanced
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 720
Likes: 317
From: WA
Default

Remember, those are 53 INCH lbs, not foot lbs if you decide to just tighten the bolts.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 12:54 PM
  #3  
Allusuc's Avatar
Allusuc
Thread Starter
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 21
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by Seattle SCone
Remember, those are 53 INCH lbs, not foot lbs if you decide to just tighten the bolts.
oh perfect. Thanks! Any advice on whether I should replace the rubber gaskets though? Lol
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:00 PM
  #4  
fwhomeboy's Avatar
fwhomeboy
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 215
From: North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Allusuc
Hi all. I just got my car back from the dealership. They said my rear brake pads are 2mm/10mm so I gotta replace them soon.

they also said I have a small leak from the valve cover gasket. I watched videos on YouTube and it looks like a very long long long job, but not too difficult. Do you guys recommend me doing this? I haven’t seen the leak myself but I’m assuming I’d replace the rubber seals for both right and left sides.

or do you recommend me to just tighten the bolts? If so, what torque amount to use? 53lb maybe?

Or should I just ignore it all together because it’s a small leak and I can just continue to add oil to it.

Any advice would be welcomed!
First, how much oil have you been adding? I would remove the covers and look for yourself.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:06 PM
  #5  
Allusuc's Avatar
Allusuc
Thread Starter
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 21
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by fwhomeboy
First, how much oil have you been adding? I would remove the covers and look for yourself.

haven’t needed to add any engine oil. I checked the engine oil stick and I’m still in the good zone. Engine oil change was done 1k miles ago... and uhhh 4 months ago (haven’t driven it much due to pandemic).

Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:13 PM
  #6  
miket000's Avatar
miket000
Instructor
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 967
Likes: 576
From: az
Default

When I did mine I also replaced the high pressure fuel pump gaskets. With the battery tray still installed and battery removed I was able to squeeze out the spark plug coil pack in that area. The battery tray flexed just enough. That saves some time.

One thing to watch for...
There are about a half dozen o ring type gaskets that will stick to the valve covers when you remove each cover. The orings should be pulled off the valve covers and held in place on the cylinder head in their correct groove with assembly lube. Otherwise its very easy to have one fall or get scraped off while reinstalling the cover.

At 175k miles my spark plug tube seals were also leaking badly. Fyi, only oem tube gaskets seal correctly. Ask me how I know . Since the coil packs will be out it's an easy time to replace them.

The entire process goes a lot quicker than you might imagine. Everything is pretty easy to access. Much easier than a v6 camry or es300.

Good luck!
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:18 PM
  #7  
Allusuc's Avatar
Allusuc
Thread Starter
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 21
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by miket000
When I did mine I also replaced the high pressure fuel pump gaskets. With the battery tray still installed and battery removed I was able to squeeze out the spark plug coil pack in that area. The battery tray flexed just enough. That saves some time.

One thing to watch for...
There are about a half dozen o ring type gaskets that will stick to the valve covers when you remove each cover. The orings should be pulled off the valve covers and held in place on the cylinder head in their correct groove with assembly lube. Otherwise its very easy to have one fall or get scraped off while reinstalling the cover.

At 175k miles my spark plug tube seals were also leaking badly. Fyi, only oem tube gaskets seal correctly. Ask me how I know . Since the coil packs will be out it's an easy time to replace them.

The entire process goes a lot quicker than you might imagine. Everything is pretty easy to access. Much easier than a v6 camry or es300.

Good luck!

is it easy to tell if the valve gasket is leaking vs spark plug tube seals?
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:29 PM
  #8  
fwhomeboy's Avatar
fwhomeboy
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 215
From: North Carolina
Default

Take the engine covers off and look. Take pictures of any oil you see and don't wipe it off until you take pictures first. We can all help you decide what you should do then.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:49 PM
  #9  
Doublebase's Avatar
Doublebase
Pole Position
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,561
Likes: 365
From: New Hampshire
Default

I’d obviously take a look at it and make a decision. Keep in mind most cars on the road have something leaking or weeping a little bit here and there...an oil pan, a valve cover gasket, whatever...no need to run out and get it fixed. That thing may weep for ten years without it causing a problem, so I’d really only do it if it was an EASY job, an inexpensive job or if it was leaking badly. Otherwise I’d just leave it.

I once bought a Honda Accord brand new...oil pan gasket started leaking at 14,000 miles. For some reason I never bothered to get it fixed even when it was under warranty...that thing leaked all the way till the day I sold it with 289,000 miles. Never had to add oil because of it, never ruined my driveway or anything. In fact it protected the oil pan from rusting out. So it really depends.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:49 PM
  #10  
Seattle SCone's Avatar
Seattle SCone
Advanced
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 720
Likes: 317
From: WA
Default

Taking the covers off to inspect is practically the same amount of work as simply replacing the outer gasket and spark plug well gaskets. He's going to ruin the seal and likely damage the existing gasket doing the inspection. Then, he has to put it back on with FIPG in the correct spots.

May as well just replace the gaskets if taking off the covers. Gasket kits are cheap, typically include outer gasket, well gaskets and the o-ring gaskets for the bolts. Just add some Toyota FIPG and you have the materials. Then it's a matter of time and tools. Some of the bolts are going to be fun unless you have an assortment of wobble and universal joints. It's doable as a DIY, but I would tackle it only with some wrenching experience.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 02:12 PM
  #11  
Allusuc's Avatar
Allusuc
Thread Starter
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 21
From: CA
Default

I asked them about where the leak was and they said it’s hard to see from the top, but they could see the oil dripping on the bottom covers. So I am definitely curious. I’ll try to see if I can take the black covers off this weekend and take pics to show.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 02:17 PM
  #12  
fwhomeboy's Avatar
fwhomeboy
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 215
From: North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Seattle SCone
Taking the covers off to inspect is practically the same amount of work as simply replacing the outer gasket and spark plug well gaskets. He's going to ruin the seal and likely damage the existing gasket doing the inspection. Then, he has to put it back on with FIPG in the correct spots.

May as well just replace the gaskets if taking off the covers. Gasket kits are cheap, typically include outer gasket, well gaskets and the o-ring gaskets for the bolts. Just add some Toyota FIPG and you have the materials. Then it's a matter of time and tools. Some of the bolts are going to be fun unless you have an assortment of wobble and universal joints. It's doable as a DIY, but I would tackle it only with some wrenching experience.
Noooooo, Just the engine covers, NOT the valve covers. Just take off the plastic covers to see the engine..
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 02:20 PM
  #13  
Anfanger's Avatar
Anfanger
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,857
Likes: 1,004
From: NH
Default

If you have leaking spark plug grommets, you will have oil in spark plug wells.

If leaking oil gets on your starter or a sensor connector, it might eventually cause starter or sensor premature failure.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 02:24 PM
  #14  
fwhomeboy's Avatar
fwhomeboy
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 215
From: North Carolina
Default


With the engine covers off, you can see the leak if its bad enough to deal with.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2020 | 02:27 PM
  #15  
fwhomeboy's Avatar
fwhomeboy
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 215
From: North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by fwhomeboy

With the engine covers off, you can see the leak if its bad enough to deal with.
Man, I just noticed my coolant tank is low.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:16 AM.