Tire life is a function of driving style. That said, I expect to get 35K-40K miles out of a set of Pirelli P7 Plus, but I replace at 4/32nd instead of running to the wear bars. That is still quite a bit lower than the rated 70K-mile warranty. Larger cars are going to be harder on tires due to the weight. In the 1990s I drove light Hondas, with 14-inch wheels and large profiles, and could easily exceed Michelin's tire mileage warranty, but as cars got bigger and heavier I end up getting a prorated refund by the time I'm due for new tires. For instance, a 90K-mile-warranty Michelin Defender only lasted barely 40K miles on our 2007 Toyota Sienna and I drive about the same now as in the 1990s (just in better comfort now).

 

I bought my '12 for 19 and believe your supposition on the cars are correct.
Great bargain right now on the used car market
80 K car ..........7 years later for 19.........all books and records...............it is a no-brainer.

 

I have been pondering replacing an old '07 G35x I bought new with a LS 460. I live in some mixed weather so I want it have to be AWD. I throw snows on my AWDs as well. I guess I need to dig down and learn about these cars. I really don't know anything about them other than it has a DI version of the motor in my GX 460.

 

Haha, I guess I'm in the right place, ie., among people with a similar outlook. I just put 84,000 miles on a set of Michelins on my Accord that were warrantied for 50,000 miles. I'm old enough now that I really want a more luxurious ride....and the LS seems like an absolutely wonderful machine.

 

63 years old here and am going from a Miata to an LS 460..................put that in perspective !

 

I bought this nice 2007 with 99,000 miles for $12,000 from a private party several weeks ago. I was lucky to find an excellent mobile inspector here in the Portland Oregon area, so I know it's in good condition - mostly serviced at Lexus dealerships. The previous owner commented on how fast the value fell in the last couple of years.

My previous vehicle is a 2006 Sienna 2WD with 190,000 miles. It has been so trouble free that I wanted to stick with the brand in my search for a quiet, soft-riding road trip car. I tested a 2012 Avalon, it had impressive power and handling, but did not have the low noise level and soft ride I wanted. So far I'm enjoying the LS460 for trips, but will keep the old Sienna for a daily driver around town. I'm running the LS on regular and it gets the same fuel mileage as my Sienna. Handling improves with a little more tire pressure.

I took the LS in to the nearby Toyota dealer for an oil change and took advantage of their "happy hour" price after 2:30 in the afternoon. I had to spend over an hour in their waiting area, but it was quite luxurious with recliners in front of a big fireplace and free coffee drinks. I hadn't been to this dealership in over a decade and I was surprised at how much larger it is now.

 

The LS 460's engine is actually DI and Port Injection.

Cold start: Port injector on intake stroke, Direct injector on compression stroke, creating a stratified rich mixture to quickly light off the cats.

Warm up idle: Port only

Normal idle: Direct only, injects on intake stroke

Normal part throttle: Port and direct, both on intake stroke

Full throttle: Direct only, on intake stroke.

 

Mike

Run Premium in your new to you LS. It will love you for it.

Dennis

 

You said, "I'm running the LS on regular".
Do this. Find a Shell station, or, any station and get one tank of Ethanol free gas. Then, on your next tank, run a full tank of Shell V-Power or any 93 Octane gas in your "Top of the line" LS460. I know it's gonna cost a few dollars more, but, don't worry about it. It's just two tanks. Then you can go back to the cheap gas if you want to. Please, try it.

Vince

 

I'm running the LS on regular and it gets the same fuel mileage as my Sienna
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can I ask why you have decided to run your LS on regular, not even regular plus, not to mention what is recommended - Premium?

I have read that one can actually do damage to an engine by running regular instead of specified premium, but have not read of damage running the middle octane ......

I apologize for my question if this is a matter of your finances being able to afford only regular gas.

 

OK guys, I promise to try a couple of tanks of high-octane! What kind of improvement should I be watching for? I actually checked the forum on this question a few weeks ago and it seems there is a philosophical divide on the octane issue. I didn't mean to get that discussion started again.

 

Hi Mike,

I'm in the Portland area too. Curious to know who you used for your mobile inspection. Also, which Toyota dealer are you referring to?

Thanks!

Gary

 

You won't notice the difference right off the bat. But, after you run a full tank of the "Proper Fuel", you'll notice that the engine will smile as it rolls down the road. Like the NIKE ADS, Just do it.

 

It's a different story for a car whose engine requires premium fuel. The car will run on regular fuel in a pinch, but you shouldn't make a habit of it. The fuel's lower octane can result in elevated exhaust-gas temperatures and possible knocking, both of which can adversely affect the engine's health in the long run. Running regular-grade fuel in a car that requires premium might sound like an easy way to shave a car's operating costs, but the short-term savings won't come close to offsetting the cost of repairs to a damaged engine.

https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy...g-premium.html

 

https://pdxinspections.com/ is a great inspection service. I highly recommend them! The Toyota dealer is the one in Vancouver, WA. Ask them about their happy hour oil change discount.