AWD Transfer Case Vibration Possible Fix
09-24-15, 05:16 PM
#1
Driver
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AWD Transfer Case Vibration Possible Fix
Ever since I purchased my 08 LS600hL it had the common issue of the vibration and noise as described in TSB L-SB-0023-11. I had a hard time believing that there was some crazy expensive magic fluid that would fix the problem. As an experiment I decided to instead replace the fluid with Amsoil 75w90 severe gear. It is a GL 5 fluid and as far is Toyota is concerned an acceptable substitute. It even has a street price of $16 a quart. Far cry from the $120+ the Toyota miracle fluid goes for.
So with the amsoil in hand, I drained the existing fluid and replaced. Instead of driving for 1 mile as the repair suggests, I decided to drive a week to really let the fluid work in. After about 5 minutes of driving the noise and shuddering effectively disappeared. I can turn much more smoothly now.
After driving the car for a week now I'm glad to report that the fix has still worked flawlessly. I will continue to drive for another 5000 miles and at my next oil change if the noise starts to return I will repeat the process and keep this thread updated. Hopefully this can save other Awd owners out there some money!
So with the amsoil in hand, I drained the existing fluid and replaced. Instead of driving for 1 mile as the repair suggests, I decided to drive a week to really let the fluid work in. After about 5 minutes of driving the noise and shuddering effectively disappeared. I can turn much more smoothly now.
After driving the car for a week now I'm glad to report that the fix has still worked flawlessly. I will continue to drive for another 5000 miles and at my next oil change if the noise starts to return I will repeat the process and keep this thread updated. Hopefully this can save other Awd owners out there some money!
Last edited by JiffyPop; 09-24-15 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Grammar
10-11-15, 04:49 AM
#3
Original gear oil these cars came with is 08885-02606 (LX). This was replaced with 08885-81085 (LL80) to
address low speed “chugging” or “lurching” around turns caused by the transfer case limited slip fluid breaking down, leading to the LSD clutches binding up (common issue on clutch-type limited slip differentials with long fluid change intervals).
Do you know when was the last time gear oil was changed on this car?. Amsoil may have solved the clutch binding problem now, but there is no guarantee it won't come back. Only time will tell. Keep us posted.
Even if you have to change Amsoil after few years, net cost still be less than LL80 fluid assuming that doesn't introduce any other issue.
address low speed “chugging” or “lurching” around turns caused by the transfer case limited slip fluid breaking down, leading to the LSD clutches binding up (common issue on clutch-type limited slip differentials with long fluid change intervals).
Do you know when was the last time gear oil was changed on this car?. Amsoil may have solved the clutch binding problem now, but there is no guarantee it won't come back. Only time will tell. Keep us posted.
Even if you have to change Amsoil after few years, net cost still be less than LL80 fluid assuming that doesn't introduce any other issue.
10-11-15, 10:38 AM
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Driver
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The car previously had the original transfer case fluid (LX). I did go ahead and change the fluid one more time since I already had the extra fluid. After the first change, i would say about 90% of the binding was gone. With the second change it has completely disappeared.
I am confident that this will solve the problem permanently. I will however continue to monitor the performance. I am sure the Amsoil will not introduce any new problems as it is listed as a API GL-5 spec fluid, and the owners manual does state that the use of GL-5 is acceptable.
I am confident that this will solve the problem permanently. I will however continue to monitor the performance. I am sure the Amsoil will not introduce any new problems as it is listed as a API GL-5 spec fluid, and the owners manual does state that the use of GL-5 is acceptable.
06-16-16, 07:45 PM
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06-17-16, 11:01 AM
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06-18-16, 07:08 AM
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Differential and the transfer case are the easiest and most rewarding DIY (ramps and wheel chocks required). Drain and refill with the best fluid you can afford. My personal favorites are Redline, Amsoil, RP and Mobil1 (in that order). Make sure the fluid meets the spec for your car and put it in.
Transfer Case: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
Front Differential: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
Rear Differential: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=40&pcid=4
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produ...e-gear-75w-90/
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-gear/
https://mobiloil.com/en/gear-lubrica...c-gear-lube-ls
Transfer Case: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
Front Differential: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
Rear Differential: 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=40&pcid=4
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produ...e-gear-75w-90/
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/products/max-gear/
https://mobiloil.com/en/gear-lubrica...c-gear-lube-ls
Last edited by superdenso; 06-18-16 at 07:22 AM.
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06-18-16, 07:27 AM
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Differential and the transfer case are the easiest and most rewarding DIY (ramps and wheel chocks required). Drain and refill with the best fluid you can afford.
06-25-16, 01:00 PM
#11
I finally had this service done today. I used the Amsoil Severe Gear which cost me $20/qt with shipping and taxes. My local mechanic charged one hours labor at $85. I followed the TSB (drain/fill three times while driving for one mile in between each drain/fill). I just got the car and did some low speed circles in a parking lot in drive and reverse. The vibration is totally gone. Hopefully it stays that way.
Total cost was about $130. Had I used the Toyota transfer case fluid (at $140/qt) and had the work done at a Lexus dealership, it would have cost me close to $600.
Thanks for all the info sharing.
Total cost was about $130. Had I used the Toyota transfer case fluid (at $140/qt) and had the work done at a Lexus dealership, it would have cost me close to $600.
Thanks for all the info sharing.
06-26-16, 03:30 PM
#12
Driver
Thread Starter
I finally had this service done today. I used the Amsoil Severe Gear which cost me $20/qt with shipping and taxes. My local mechanic charged one hours labor at $85. I followed the TSB (drain/fill three times while driving for one mile in between each drain/fill). I just got the car and did some low speed circles in a parking lot in drive and reverse. The vibration is totally gone. Hopefully it stays that way.
Total cost was about $130. Had I used the Toyota transfer case fluid (at $140/qt) and had the work done at a Lexus dealership, it would have cost me close to $600.
Thanks for all the info sharing.
Total cost was about $130. Had I used the Toyota transfer case fluid (at $140/qt) and had the work done at a Lexus dealership, it would have cost me close to $600.
Thanks for all the info sharing.
09-09-17, 08:24 PM
#13
I had a vibration when starting and accelerating with the steering wheel turned. I had my local shop drain and fill the transfer case with Redline gear oil for differentials and transfer cases. I had the shop repeat the drain and fill process once (I know the TSB says twice). The vibration is completely gone. I paid $17/quart for the oil. My local shop charged me an hour labor. Here's a link to the oil I used.
https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=40&pcid=4
https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=40&pcid=4
