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Old 04-30-17, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS View Post
I would certainly do some research before I purchased any vehicle, certainly a used vehicle.



What I don't understand is why you are still angry when Lexus covered this repair for you out of warranty. What more do you want them to do for you? No, I don't think they should cover this repair, and this is the perfect example why...it doesn't get them anything by going above and beyond and standing behind the product, people still bash them as you've done here.

I'm a fool? I'm not the one who bought a car without doing even a cursory bit of research into its issues and common problems.
It was a major issue/repair that simply should not have happened with the mileage/age of the car. I would be disappointed too because it could be a sign of things to come and should not have happened in the first place. Lexus won't cover every owner/car for this known issue, he was lucky they covered it for him, maybe he is putting himself in the place if he or someone was not covered and they have to shell out thousands to repair a suspension issue known for years, if it was properly designed it should not be failing/needing repair anywhere near 100K miles. He is not bashing them, he is voicing concern and disappointment, fixing his issue is the least they should have done, it is not his fault it was not designed to last and often has issues prematurely. The air suspension is even much worse, disappointing for Lexus and not a good trend.
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Old 04-30-17, 12:55 PM
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It was a major issue/repair that simply should not have happened with the mileage/age of the car. I would be disappointed too because it could be a sign of things to come and should not have happened in the first place. Lexus won't cover every owner/car for this known issue, he was lucky they covered it for him, maybe he is putting himself in the place if he or someone was not covered and they have to shell out thousands to repair a suspension issue known for years, if it was properly designed it should not be failing/needing repair anywhere near 100K miles. He is not bashing them, he is voicing concern and disappointment, fixing his issue is the least they should have done, it is not his fault it was not designed to last and often has issues prematurely. The air suspension is even much worse, disappointing for Lexus and not a good trend.
Like I said, its fixed for $1,500, or potentially even less. Just build it into your purchase plan if you're going to buy one of these cars, its just not a major issue. As for air suspension, thats not an issue unique to the LS460. Air suspension is problematic on ANY vehicle, its the same way on the LS400 and LS430 also, no different. If you don't want to deal with air suspension issues buy one without air suspension. I had two LSs with air suspension and I specifically avoided it on my LS460. In any event, if you do have an air suspension failure you can swap it to coils for way less money.

As an aside, I have a neighbor with a previous generation 750 and a Range Rover. He just replaced his Range Rover with a brand new one (its awesome), I noticed over the past few weeks...he's had a lot of different BMW loaner vehicles, the 750 will be back for a few days, and another loaner. I ran into him last night and asked him about it lol. So the 750 has 65k miles, its a 2011. He's $9,700 into repairs on it this month alone. Computer problems, suspension problems, ECU...every time he gets it back something new goes wrong. He's trapped because they just bought the Range Rover and can't really swap it out, and at this point he's chasing it because he has so much in it already. He called a local BMW independent mechanic and his prices were no better than the dealer given the nature of the issues.

Thats the bottom line, that will never happen to you with an LS460. If you want to complain about $1,500 worth of control arms, go ahead lol. This caliber of car is just never going to be as cheap to maintain and reliable as something like a Camry, expecting it to be so is setting yourself up for disappointment. If the LS460 isn't reliable enough for you, you should not buy any flagship car because far and away its the most reliable of all of them.

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Old 04-30-17, 01:45 PM
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the 750 will be back for a few days, and another loaner. I ran into him last night and asked him about it lol. So the 750 has 65k miles, its a 2011. He's $9,700 into repairs on it this month alone. Computer problems, suspension problems, ECU...every time he gets it back something new goes wrong. He's trapped because they just bought the Range Rover and can't really swap it out, and at this point he's chasing it because he has so much in it already. He called a local BMW independent mechanic and his prices were no better than the dealer given the nature of the issues.

Thats the bottom line, that will never happen to you with an LS460. If you want to complain about $1,500 worth of control arms, go ahead lol.
Precisely why I exited my 7 series like it was on fire. 50k miles on the odo and needing 12-18k dollars in various engine work. When I figured I MIGHT have to do the control arms on an LS, I thought, "pffft..that's it?" Sign me up. 3 years of bliss, despite the control arms, a water pump and mufflers. Grand sum? 2 grand after 125k miles or so. Yeah.... color me happy.

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Originally Posted by UDel View Post
It was a major issue/repair that simply should not have happened with the mileage/age of the car. I would be disappointed too because it could be a sign of things to come and should not have happened in the first place. Lexus won't cover every owner/car for this known issue, he was lucky they covered it for him, maybe he is putting himself in the place if he or someone was not covered and they have to shell out thousands to repair a suspension issue known for years, if it was properly designed it should not be failing/needing repair anywhere near 100K miles. He is not bashing them, he is voicing concern and disappointment, fixing his issue is the least they should have done, it is not his fault it was not designed to last and often has issues prematurely. The air suspension is even much worse, disappointing for Lexus and not a good trend.
Right on point.
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