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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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Exactly what Paul said. Forums like this are generally for people new to the product, looking at the car, or having issues and hope to come here and find an answer. The majority of LS460 owners never come here and most likely don't even know about it. Yes, you can get a rough estimate of issues or non issues, but it's mainly from the people who have come here searching for answers. Now that the newest 460 is 7 years old, eventually the posts will be about repair.
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cousinvinh
I had an 07 460L with ultralux. I bought it 6 years ago; it was consuming oil but now at 230K it requires 1 quart every 1000 miles. I had the front control arm changed twice (first time with non-oem parts). Starter replaced. Front two air suspension replaced. I needed a new ABS actuator when I gave it to my sister after nephew total his vehicle. The car luckily never went to the stealership.

Now my second journey begins. 2017 460 bought at auction after hail damage with 78K. Interior is clean. Only error on dash was key Fob battery replacement. Just replaced front and rear brake pads yesterday. Car drive much better than my 07 460 and interior is more updated.
I got my 2017 LS 460 back in May 2023 which was the oldest I wanted to go. But I went from shopping for an ES350 with a price limit of $25,000, to looking for an LS460 newer than 2015. Before I started window-shopping for it though I researched it mainly using this site. And for honest feedback about a car there is no better source than the forums.
So I finally concluded my minimum guidelines were:
-It ought to have less than 100K on the odometer,
-2015 and newer.
- No air suspension.
I figured the added weight and complexity of an air suspension system, that so many owners seem to have expensive problems with, could not be worth the trade-off of lowered durability + being expensive to repair.
- Rear wheel drive only (as for air suspension).
- No hybrids -

Eventually wound up paying $36,500 for a 2017 Lexus LS460 w/ 69,500 miles because I was already smitten it with by the end of the test drive (this car has no air suspension, and is rear wheel drive only).
I anticipate you will get a great deal of satisfaction from owning an LS. It is Lexus' so-called "flagship" and as such it is one of the finest examples of excellence in automotive engineering on 4 wheels.

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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 01:09 PM
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Thank You I had forgotten that I had the drip rails striped and painted on my dime.

Dennis
And Dennis, that's not even pertinent. It's not like we couldn't drive our cars with peeling drip rails!
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DJWLDW
I have owned my 2010 LS460L for 10 years now taking it from 19K on the clock when it came off lease to 111,265 on the clock now. Other than changing the spark plugs, brake pads and rotors out at the 60K mark I have not spent a dime other than the normal oil and filter changes. The tires get rotated every 5k with the oil change. About 3 or 4 years ago I did get basically a whole new front interior from Lexus and given that nobody ever sits in the back seat the interior looks like new. Best Car I have ever owned.

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How did you get a new front interior from Lexus and how much did that cost? Can anyone get that? What did it include (seats, steering wheel, dashboard, door panels, etc.)? Thx
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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How did you get a new front interior from Lexus and how much did that cost? Can anyone get that? What did it include (seats, steering wheel, dashboard, door panels, etc.)? Thx
Pretty sure that warranty has expired, as I think it only applied to 2007-2012 models.


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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 07:10 PM
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Beyond normal maintenance items, my 127,000-mile LS460 (2012, AWD) has needed exactly two things: mufflers. That’s it. But I am maniacal about 5000-mile service intervals, even though my dealer is in a different state 2 hours away. This car is magic.
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 08:54 PM
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Bought my 2009 LS with 115xxx miles, I've had my interior replaced under warranty, brake Actuator (cost on my dime), valley plate, fuel pump gaskets, radiator (corner plastic cracked), all new OEM revised suspension parts (rides like a dream), timing chain tensioner and lash adjuster replaced on driver side of motor, all fluids changed. Can't think of anything else it's been a few years.

My LS now has 304xxx miles and drinks oil. Its gotten so bad that i wait for the car to tell me to add oil. It's burning a quart every 500 miles. I feel if I top off the oil it just burns or leaks it faster. Considering I've spent nearly $20k on this car, replacing the motor would be cheap. I've stated before if I we're to replace the motor it wouldn't be the 1UR-FSE but of course I know putting another motor that is not the original would cost me a lot more money. I'm looking into just buying new high friction piston rings and taking it to a company that specializes in rebuilding these motors and have It back in less than a week. So when I do replace the motor I know my LS will last another 250xxx miles with no problems, except fluid changes.

At the beginning didn't realize these older models would be such money pits, compared to the 2013 and later models which were built with revised parts and have better quality and reliability than the earlier models. So whoever reads this DONT buy pre 2012 ONLY buy post 2013 LS460s and you will have no issue's...for the most part if you stick with the service intervals.
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 06:21 AM
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It was under warranty. They did not replace the seats or steering wheel. They replaced both door panels, upper and lower dash, glove box, part of the counsel.

Dennis
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lex442
My 2008 ls460 is a POS!. The last 3 years have been a total disaster for the car. It was 3yrs old when I bought the car with about 30k miles. In the past three years the engine was replaced and at that time there were only 104k on it. The dealer and independent shop suggested replacing the engine because it was cheaper than fixing it. The next year the transmission began to slip and that had to be fixed. Even before the engine was replaced the starter had to be changed. The a/c compressor was been changed and now the ABS actuator has warning on the insturment panel to check the VCS. It now cost 3800 to get that replaced.

I have always taking the car to have the maintenance done on it at its scheduled times. The only thing good about the car is it looks good. Also the dash and interior panels were replaced a couple years ago under the recall. Dealer billed Lexus over 8500 to replace. The car only has about 135k on it. What an expensive POS. Also by the way the oring seals on the oil filter housing are leaking and they need to be changed, I can do that myself thank goodness. I will never buy another one!

I also know of two people who own one are both have the ABS VSC warning on their dash
Hmm...I had a 2007 LS460 for two years purchased from a local dealer with 173,000 miles. It had lots of dealer service records, so any past issues were resolved prior to my ownership. I contacted the previous owner and he said it was so reliable he'd drive it across the country and back to California. Never had one mechanical issue rear it's ugly head. The only issue was the drip rail peel. Perhaps you should look into local non-dealer service facilities, not the stealership.
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc780
I got my 2017 LS 460 back in May 2023 which was the oldest I wanted to go. But I went from shopping for an ES350 with a price limit of $25,000, to looking for an LS460 newer than 2015. I wound up paying $36,500 for a 2017 LS with 69,000 miles on the odometer Before I started window-shopping for it I researched it mainly using this site. And for honest feedback about a car there is no better source than the forums.
So I finally concluded my minimum guidelines were:
-It ought to have less than 100K on the odometer,
-2015 and newer.
- No air suspension.
I figured the added weight and complexity of an air suspension system, that so many owners seem to have expensive problems with, could not be worth the trade-off of lowered durability + being expensive to repair.
- Rear wheel drive only (as for air suspension).
- No hybrids...

Eventually wound up paying $36,500 for a 2017 Lexus LS460, that I was smitten with by the end of the test drive (this car has no air suspension, and is rear wheel drive only).
I anticipate you will get a great deal of satisfaction from owning an LS. It is Lexus' so-called "flagship" and as such it is one of the finest example of automotive engineering on 4 wheels.
I bought my 2016 LS also last year with only 34,000 miles, and like you opted for no air suspension and RWD as I've read on this forum that that combo is potentially more reliable, I do love the car and hope to keep it for many trouble free years. I started this thread in the hopes of reading great success stories of folks buying high mileage 460's with no or minimal issues while adding thousands of more miles, others have pointed out that those folks are probably not on the forums especially if they have no issues to research which makes sense. I also just purchased a 2024 IS500, one of Lexus's last vehicles with their great 5.0 V8!
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mythicalni
Bought my 2009 LS with 115xxx miles, I've had my interior replaced under warranty, brake Actuator (cost on my dime), valley plate, fuel pump gaskets, radiator (corner plastic cracked), all new OEM revised suspension parts (rides like a dream), timing chain tensioner and lash adjuster replaced on driver side of motor, all fluids changed. Can't think of anything else it's been a few years.

My LS now has 304xxx miles and drinks oil. Its gotten so bad that i wait for the car to tell me to add oil. It's burning a quart every 500 miles. I feel if I top off the oil it just burns or leaks it faster. Considering I've spent nearly $20k on this car, replacing the motor would be cheap. I've stated before if I we're to replace the motor it wouldn't be the 1UR-FSE but of course I know putting another motor that is not the original would cost me a lot more money. I'm looking into just buying new high friction piston rings and taking it to a company that specializes in rebuilding these motors and have It back in less than a week. So when I do replace the motor I know my LS will last another 250xxx miles with no problems, except fluid changes.

At the beginning didn't realize these older models would be such money pits, compared to the 2013 and later models which were built with revised parts and have better quality and reliability than the earlier models. So whoever reads this DONT buy pre 2012 ONLY buy post 2013 LS460s and you will have no issue's...for the most part if you stick with the service intervals.
The 07-09 ls460 model has depreciated so badly that a 05-06 LS430 is selling at higher price than ls460 for above reasons. At one point I thought about doing an engine swap on an 07 LS460 that was burning oil really badly but decided that it is easy to buy a post 2013 ls460.
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Old Feb 1, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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Glad you posted this thread as I've been lurking for a long time and it seems to be hit or miss. I see posts about it being the best car they've owned or a total POS. Most definitely, the 07-12s are by far the worst. Outside of what I call the big 3 (control arms, actuator, valley plate), the cars seem to be decent. The big 3 are really big ticket items, though. I guess it's just part of it, but it gives me anxiety to think of having to drop around $8k total for all that. Owning a boat would most likely cost significantly more and any type of luxury item or toy will empty the wallet at some point.

Are there any on here with a 13-17 will well over 100k miles? If so, how have they held up? I'd be curious to compare them with the high mileage 07-12s.

My target car is a 14-15 SWB RWD with about 85k.
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Old Feb 1, 2024 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JRA2000TL
Glad you posted this thread as I've been lurking for a long time and it seems to be hit or miss. I see posts about it being the best car they've owned or a total POS. Most definitely, the 07-12s are by far the worst. Outside of what I call the big 3 (control arms, actuator, valley plate), the cars seem to be decent. The big 3 are really big ticket items, though. I guess it's just part of it, but it gives me anxiety to think of having to drop around $8k total for all that. Owning a boat would most likely cost significantly more and any type of luxury item or toy will empty the wallet at some point.

Are there any on here with a 13-17 will well over 100k miles? If so, how have they held up? I'd be curious to compare them with the high mileage 07-12s.

My target car is a 14-15 SWB RWD with about 85k.
As an owner of a 2016 LS460, my third Lexus (I've owned 4 Lexus vehicles over the years and currently own 2) and it is definitely the most comfortable car I've ever owned over 55 years and probably 25-30 different cars, I also would love to hear from other 14 - 17 owners with high mileage and good reports about reliability, that's really why I started this thread. Thanks for adding to it!
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Besides the clock not working (WTF?) and the Tire monioring system just shows -- for each tire. Nothing... Car runs fine...
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Old Feb 1, 2024 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidinCT
Besides the clock not working (WTF?) and the Tire monioring system just shows -- for each tire. Nothing... Car runs fine...
I’ve heard of the clocks failing. You’re not the only one. I ran the history of one I was looking at and it had been replaced. They’re damn proud of it at $400. Lexus is always that way, but usually the parts last and you pay for it.
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