p0171 and p0174, but STFT and O2 sensor voltage indicate rich exhaust?
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p0171 and p0174, but STFT and O2 sensor voltage indicate rich exhaust?
So I have a 2001 LS430 with 240k miles on it. Around September of last year, my CEL would turn on and off, and around December, it stayed on. I have p0171 and p0174 codes stored and pending, indicating both banks are running lean. Along with this, I began having acceleration issues, where if I tried to accelerate quickly the engine would speed up without increasing my speed, but after a second or two it would "catch" and I'd accelerate really quickly. I can usually accelerate slowly with no problems. But this is what my OBD2 scanner is showing:
O2 sensor 1 bank 1
O2 sensor 2 bank 1
O2 sensor 1 bank 2
O2 sensor 2 bank 2
Any ideas what's happening here? I've tried cleaning the MAF sensor with condensed air (which I've since learned is not always effectice) to no effect, and ran some techron through my fuel system, which gave a MINOR improvement. TIA
edit to add: there's no way that sensor 1 behavior on both banks is normal. Is it?
O2 sensor 1 bank 1
O2 sensor 2 bank 1
O2 sensor 1 bank 2
O2 sensor 2 bank 2
Any ideas what's happening here? I've tried cleaning the MAF sensor with condensed air (which I've since learned is not always effectice) to no effect, and ran some techron through my fuel system, which gave a MINOR improvement. TIA
edit to add: there's no way that sensor 1 behavior on both banks is normal. Is it?
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If the banks are running lean that means either less fuel getting injected (less probable) or more air getting mixed (more probable). This more air has to come from somewhere and it could be either from throttle body, intake manifold gasket, or some hoses somewhere.
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When's the last time you cleaned your MAF sensor? Had similar codes on my LS400 and found cleaning the heck out of the MAF cleared up the problem.
Could be worth a shot. Dirty MAF/poor readings could cause more air to be allowed into the system.
Could be worth a shot. Dirty MAF/poor readings could cause more air to be allowed into the system.
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Those O2 sensor readings are normal. The computer knows how to read them as all O2 readings swing up and down.
I'm guessing your MAF needs to be cleaned correctly. My car has the same symptoms and once I cleaned it it ran perfectly. If you watched the cleaning video recently you can remove the MAF for cleaning. Once it is out put the straw from the cleaner about 1/2" into the bottom of the black tube. Flood the sensor with cleaner until it runs clear. You can check your progress with a bright light by looking up inside and seeing the 2 sensing wires. Continue to spray short bursts until the wires are spotless. Do not touch the wires with anything except the liquid spray. Let it dry, reinstall, and go enjoy what will feel like a new car.
I'm guessing your MAF needs to be cleaned correctly. My car has the same symptoms and once I cleaned it it ran perfectly. If you watched the cleaning video recently you can remove the MAF for cleaning. Once it is out put the straw from the cleaner about 1/2" into the bottom of the black tube. Flood the sensor with cleaner until it runs clear. You can check your progress with a bright light by looking up inside and seeing the 2 sensing wires. Continue to spray short bursts until the wires are spotless. Do not touch the wires with anything except the liquid spray. Let it dry, reinstall, and go enjoy what will feel like a new car.
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I cleaned my MAF recently (134,000 miles) just because I thought I should, not that I had any noticeable problems with the car. It was easy to do and the MAF came out bright and shiny. I can't tell any difference in how the car runs, but I feel better that it was cleaned and is perfect.
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Mine was quite dirty at around 120k miles and it was throwing the lean mixture codes. Once I cleaned it the car ran like it had at least 30 more horsepower. A very noticeable difference and it would actually accelerate every time I pressed the accelerator, not just when it wanted to.
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