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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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I was checking out some Ls430 UL editions and have some questions. I was wondering does the UL have different options within it as well? I saw some ULs for sale that have eat/cooled fronts air sus but no cooled rear seats. Some ive seen have air sus, but no rear massage chairs or anything.. i am so confused on the differences. Are there more then one kind of ULs? Oh they're 01-03 btw
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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all04-06 UL's have front and rear heat and cooled seats as well as rear seat massagers. the only single option i know about with the UL's was the PCS (pre collision system) which is a square plastic L emblem in the grill instead of the normal looking LS L grill.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Oh. Im asking about the 01-03 models.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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01-03 front heated/cooled rear heated only that recline and have built in back massagers.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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If i did my research right, I believe a car with stock air suspension (look at right behind the shifter there should be 2 extra buttons for the air and shock) is the tell all sign that it is an Ultra Luxury model. If it doesn't have it, then it isn't an Ultra Luxury model but rather a "CUSTOM" luxury model.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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The UL also has an extra button that allows the driver to return the rear seats to the upright position and/or lowers the rear headrests. The symbol on the button is a seat and is located in the lower row of buttons, not on the top row with the suspension height and sport buttons.

Another easy way to spot the UL is to look for the A/C vents above the rear doors. Only the UL has an independent rear A/C.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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The online listers will mark cars as UL when they really aren't because they know people filter the cars by that option. All UL's have air suspension and rear seat upgrade in the US. There was no way to order the car with air suspension but without rear seat upgrade, or vice versa.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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Either junjdm or gato I forget which but one of them has an 01-03 that is not a UL but has stock air susp.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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cool, thanks a lot guys. ive been searching on the market for one for a while.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sojah
Either junjdm or gato I forget which but one of them has an 01-03 that is not a UL but has stock air susp.
Yes, in 01-03, I believe the air suspension was a stand-alone option.

The best ways to identify an 04-06 UL from pics in ads:

- Headlamp washer covers in pics of front bumper (indicates UL or CL)

- Rear stereo controls in rear armrest

- Air suspension and rear seat control switches on center stack in front of shifter.

- Smaller rear trunk that doesn't extend forward all the way to a rear seat pass through.

- Rear door window shade hardware.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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If you can see the rear door in the ads, the UL has three buttons for the rear seat pre-set. These buttons are just forward of the rear interior door handles.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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The UL is very nice. Even if you have to replace the air suspension w/ stock coils, that would run you maybe $2.5K. Heck, a set of decent new tires will run $1200, so in that sense, $2.5k isn't bad. You have to put up with the same risk on the GX (air) and LX (hydraulic), or 4runner limited (air).
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Chow
The UL is very nice. Even if you have to replace the air suspension w/ stock coils, that would run you maybe $2.5K. Heck, a set of decent new tires will run $1200, so in that sense, $2.5k isn't bad. You have to put up with the same risk on the GX (air) and LX (hydraulic), or 4runner limited (air).
Well said. I've seen a lot of members swaying away from the UL because of the possibility of air susp failure but you hit it right on the head. If I can spend $7k on a set of rims, replacing with coils would be alright if the time comes, maybe tomorrow or maybe in 3 years.

I've been riding on stock wheels because of winter and just enjoying the smooth suspension ride and quietness that comes with the UL (don't forget it comes with double pane windows too)
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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It's also the only way to get the additional air conditioning/filtering/deodorizing unit, which is pretty awesome in its own right even without rear passengers. I can certainly understand peoples' concerns with the extra gadgets but they are pretty darned cool.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Chow
The UL is very nice. Even if you have to replace the air suspension w/ stock coils, that would run you maybe $2.5K. Heck, a set of decent new tires will run $1200, so in that sense, $2.5k isn't bad. You have to put up with the same risk on the GX (air) and LX (hydraulic), or 4runner limited (air).
i only paid about $1200 total for my coilovers and the install. i ended up selling my good 2 front air ride stock suspension pieces (can't think of the real name right now, too early and not enough coffee yet) for about $450, and then i sold my datasystems controller for $400 (cuz i didn't need it since no more air), and then i sold my ss kit for like $500 since i really didn't need this anymore due to no more air susp, so although it was a little bit of a hassle doing all this i think i pretty much swapped parts for parts and didn't really have to pay any additional $$$.
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