Installing navigation system from scratch
I disagree...had the Garmin but sent it back. Here is why: The Garmin does not, like the TomTom, have the CURRENT TIME just above the ARRIVAL TIME. I LOVE that feature that was on my old prior-generation Garmin. I like to look RIGHT AT the screen and see that it's 12:45 and I should arrive at 2:10. Garmin requires you to change the screen to see that...the another maneuver to change the screen back.
Also, I found the TomTom "exclude" feature to be easier. If it routes me thru Elm Street but I know that Elm is under construction, I can just look at the route description, line by line in easy text format, and easily exclude Elm Street for a reroute. Garmin is more complicated.
Also the text line-by-line route is excellent on TomTom and not available on Garmin. When I program a route, for example, to go from Pittsburgh to New York, I generally know to take the PA Turnpike to Harrisburg then I-81 to I-78. I like the ability to glance at the route description to see if it's taking me generally that way. If it has me going thru Erie, I know something is wrong. It's much more complicated with the Garmin.
I've had both and TomTom is better.
Last edited by daryll40; Sep 7, 2007 at 06:53 AM. Reason: Typo
Maybe the next car I buy will have OEM nav.
I'm too frugal (and my wife wouldn't let me anyway!) to spend the money to do the major surgury to install an in-dash nav in my old 00 LS. And, you gotta remember that OEM nav is vitually free when buying 3 -4 year used car. They often don't add value and increasingly, OEM nav reduces a used car's market value.
IMO, the windshield is a bad place to attach a portable nav - I do that only in rental cars.
The same Pro.Fit Legend bracket I have my portable nav on in my 00 LS400 also fits the LS430. The power cable is mostly hidden inside my center console and plugs into an extension cable that is hardwired to the auxillary power port.
Mounted on the bracket instead of the windshield, my portable nav is almost invisible from outside the car due to the tinted window and especially when the windshield sun shade is in place. There is no telltale suction cup mark on the windshield that thieves look for. My wife can reach the nav from the passenger seat without stretching. She can't begin to reach it when it is mounted on the windshield. I can reach it without stretching or leaning forward.
There is a lot less glare on the nav screen when it's on the Pro.Fit bracket than when it is mounted on a windshield. The nav is easily removed from it's cradle which is attached to the bracket. I have an extra cradle attached to a suction cup mount and an extra power cable for use in rental cars.
I would imagine that just about any portable flat screen nav would fit on one of these brackets - Magellan, TomTom, Garmin.
Last edited by Kansas; Sep 8, 2007 at 07:36 AM.








