Knocking sound in gear
My 1995 LS400 (2nd gen) with only 115000km (71k miles) is making a worrying "knocking" noise in accord with the engine revs.
I tried to record it (from the passenger side, with a phone), unfortunately you have to turn up your speaker volume to max to hear anything:
https://vocaroo.com/1ljoJftielmP
The knocking is audible slightly at idle (400rpm), most between idle and 1000-1200rpm (as in the recording), higher and the engine fan noise drowns it.
In P gear there is no knocking at all, at any revs.
In N gear there is also no knocking except 1-2 single knocks exactly when *starting* to rev the engine up, it's very subtle.
In R and all other gears it's permanent, at any revs, and the knocking frequency goes parallel with the engine revs.
I tested this while standing and with the E brake on.
While driving, it's audible in low revs (up to 1000-1200), then the engine/driving sound drowns it.
The gearbox fluid is at correct level (on the high side).
My thoughts:
It's not the the engine since there's no knocking in P gear.
It's not the torque converter either since there should be no difference of spinning parts inside the gearbox between P or any other gear *while standing*.
I got a hint that it could be a worn out parking pawl but since it is located at the output shaft which is not spinning while it knocks, I ruled that out.
I'm really puzzled with this. What's the difference between P gear and all the other gears (except N maybe) *while standing*? Is there anything more spinning, after the engine and before the wheels, when not in P?
I tried to record it (from the passenger side, with a phone), unfortunately you have to turn up your speaker volume to max to hear anything:
https://vocaroo.com/1ljoJftielmP
The knocking is audible slightly at idle (400rpm), most between idle and 1000-1200rpm (as in the recording), higher and the engine fan noise drowns it.
In P gear there is no knocking at all, at any revs.
In N gear there is also no knocking except 1-2 single knocks exactly when *starting* to rev the engine up, it's very subtle.
In R and all other gears it's permanent, at any revs, and the knocking frequency goes parallel with the engine revs.
I tested this while standing and with the E brake on.
While driving, it's audible in low revs (up to 1000-1200), then the engine/driving sound drowns it.
The gearbox fluid is at correct level (on the high side).
My thoughts:
It's not the the engine since there's no knocking in P gear.
It's not the torque converter either since there should be no difference of spinning parts inside the gearbox between P or any other gear *while standing*.
I got a hint that it could be a worn out parking pawl but since it is located at the output shaft which is not spinning while it knocks, I ruled that out.
I'm really puzzled with this. What's the difference between P gear and all the other gears (except N maybe) *while standing*? Is there anything more spinning, after the engine and before the wheels, when not in P?
First guess would be transmission mount as well. Cheap & super easy to replace too, and a common part to fail with a ton of different symptoms.
If you're fully stopped, give it a good stab of gas to get going quickly. Does it feel like it takes a second for power to reach the wheels and like there is "slop" in the driveline? I would see and hear the engine rev, and then a million years later the power would make it's way to the wheels with a subtle thunk. That was my failure mode for my transmission mount. Replacing it made a huge difference.
Also, do you feel it through the shifter? That would be another point to transmission mount.
If you're fully stopped, give it a good stab of gas to get going quickly. Does it feel like it takes a second for power to reach the wheels and like there is "slop" in the driveline? I would see and hear the engine rev, and then a million years later the power would make it's way to the wheels with a subtle thunk. That was my failure mode for my transmission mount. Replacing it made a huge difference.
Also, do you feel it through the shifter? That would be another point to transmission mount.
Last edited by 400fanboy; Jul 25, 2021 at 07:26 PM.
Thanks for the ideas, sounds promising. Will check the mount as soon as possible.
@400fanboy
The car is currently in a remote garage, so I cannot answer your questions properly.
@400fanboy
The car is currently in a remote garage, so I cannot answer your questions properly.
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