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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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Once through the firewall, running the power, rca, and remote turn-on to the trunk of the LS 400 was not very difficult. I first removed the rear seat, to locate an entry point into the trunk. Here is the point I chose. It simply required drilling a ½” hole through the plastic plug and voila, access to the trunk. (see Photo 1) Starting on the passenger side rail, the carpet is held down by clips. Just slip your finger under one side and give them a pull. (Photo 2) Once removed, wires can be tucked nicely underneath carpet and clips re-installed. Continue wire run along rail and through to trunk. (Photo 3) Once in trunk, I chose to use the cubby hole beneath the tool kit to mount my Phoenix Gold MPS-2220 amplifier, and 1 Farad Boss Audio Cap. (Photo 4)
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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For the audio goods, come visit us as www.diymobileaudio.com. BTW, I think there were some more PG MS amps in the classifieds if you want some mates to that beauty.

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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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I recently took out the Memphis Audio 12" subwoofer and amplifier out of my '99 Accord and want to put it in my '97 LS400. The guy at Best Buy told me it was at least a 3 hour job, and they'd have to take out my back seat, remove half the dash, and run the power wire underneath the car to make it work. Quoted me at ~$120. The guy also told me the factory amp was behind the 6-disc changer, which if I read correctly on this forum correctly, is actually under the passenger seat.

I'm not changing the factory head unit, and though I have Infinity and Alpine speakers I also took out of my Accord, they are the wrong size, and I don't feel like fabricating to make them fit. I'll be removing the factory sub entirely, leaving the stock system + MA sub/amp.

My friend and I tried wiring it the other day, but couldn't find a place to pass the power wire through the firewall. I understand that at least the '98-'00 models have a grommet which can be removed on the passenger side, after taking the glovebox out. I have no idea how to get the glovebox out of my '97; if it doesn't have the same grommet, I don't see a reason to bother.

So...how do I get the glovebox out? And is this a project I should be letting a "professional" do, or should I get my friends who have done a few basic installs to try tackling it again?

I'm shopping around for other quotes as well.

Thanks in advance guys
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Nevermind guys. Getting it installed for $94 by a dedicated stereo shop Thursday. I'm selling my Infinity Reference 6012i (6.5" 2 way) and Alpine SPS-69C3 (6x9 coax 3 way) speakers to help offset the cost since they won't fit my LS.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugen_1
I recently took out the Memphis Audio 12" subwoofer and amplifier out of my '99 Accord and want to put it in my '97 LS400. The guy at Best Buy told me it was at least a 3 hour job, and they'd have to take out my back seat, remove half the dash, and run the power wire underneath the car to make it work. Quoted me at ~$120. The guy also told me the factory amp was behind the 6-disc changer, which if I read correctly on this forum correctly, is actually under the passenger seat.

I'm not changing the factory head unit, and though I have Infinity and Alpine speakers I also took out of my Accord, they are the wrong size, and I don't feel like fabricating to make them fit. I'll be removing the factory sub entirely, leaving the stock system + MA sub/amp.

My friend and I tried wiring it the other day, but couldn't find a place to pass the power wire through the firewall. I understand that at least the '98-'00 models have a grommet which can be removed on the passenger side, after taking the glovebox out. I have no idea how to get the glovebox out of my '97; if it doesn't have the same grommet, I don't see a reason to bother.

So...how do I get the glovebox out? And is this a project I should be letting a "professional" do, or should I get my friends who have done a few basic installs to try tackling it again?

I'm shopping around for other quotes as well.

Thanks in advance guys
If you decide to pull the glove box, it is not difficult. Open the main compartment which will expose three phillips screws on the top. Next take a 10mm socket with extension and remove two hex nuts. One holding the glove box in the back (left side), the other on right side near kick panel. It should then pull straight out. $94 dollars is pretty cheap, but not nearly as fun. Good luck!
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Hi... new guy here looking for a simple solution on my '93 LS400 with the Nakamichi system. One of my rear door speakers is blown and I was hoping to upgrade the speakers only, without too much work. I've read every post [all 7 pages] and I didn't see anyone doing this. I'd like to get a reccomendation on what speakers to use for the 4 doors and the the sub woofer in the back. My impresion of the OE system is that this set up is as if the car is wired like a speaker cabinet with a tweeter in upper part of the front door and 2 woofers in both side doors and a sub woofer in the back. With that in mind why would I replace the woofers with 2 ways? Wouldn't it change this configeration? Another question I had was I think I read that the rear sub is a 2 ohm speaker, is this correct? I don't want to overload the OE system. Could someone give me some advice please?:
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Just use crutchfield.com. They'll be able to tell you what will fit.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Just use crutchfield.com. They'll be able to tell you what will fit.
Thanks for the lead. I spent some time there and got some good ideas but could you answer my other questions? Why would I want to change a woofer to a 2-way, doesn't that completely change it's purpose of just handling mid to low range? And is the OE sub a 2 ohm and will I damage anything if I use a 4 ohm [as the 2 ohms are hard to get].
One last thing... pardon my newnest but what does "No FS in Signatures please" mean?
Oooops.... thought of something else to ask....
Does the external OE amp power all the speakers or just the sub?

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Originally Posted by jbelway
Thanks for the lead. I spent some time there and got some good ideas but could you answer my other questions? Why would I want to change a woofer to a 2-way, doesn't that completely change it's purpose of just handling mid to low range? And is the OE sub a 2 ohm and will I damage anything if I use a 4 ohm [as the 2 ohms are hard to get].
One last thing... pardon my newnest but what does "No FS in Signatures please" mean?
Oooops.... thought of something else to ask....
Does the external OE amp power all the speakers or just the sub?
I recon that most JBL are 2 ohm speakers and JBL isn't too hard to find.
I'm not sure about the Nak. system on the first gen, but I'd say it's probable that there's only one external amplifier. (On the first gen Pioneer system, the amp is only for the sub.)
BTW, "FS" means "For Sale". You can add a signature, like mine below, i.e. whatever you want to tell the universe in a line or two (except for "For Sale" that is...).

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Originally Posted by jbelway
Hi... new guy here looking for a simple solution on my '93 LS400 with the Nakamichi system. One of my rear door speakers is blown and I was hoping to upgrade the speakers only, without too much work. I've read every post [all 7 pages] and I didn't see anyone doing this. I'd like to get a reccomendation on what speakers to use for the 4 doors and the the sub woofer in the back. My impresion of the OE system is that this set up is as if the car is wired like a speaker cabinet with a tweeter in upper part of the front door and 2 woofers in both side doors and a sub woofer in the back. With that in mind why would I replace the woofers with 2 ways? Wouldn't it change this configeration? Another question I had was I think I read that the rear sub is a 2 ohm speaker, is this correct? I don't want to overload the OE system. Could someone give me some advice please?:
Not sure of the rear door size in the 93LS, but upgrading to an aftermarket two-way speaker will definitely be an improvement over stock. However as with all other re-model projects (i.e. bathroom upgrades) it may expose the rest of the systems shortcomings. The rear speakers in a car audio system are used for fill with the front component speakers providing most of the staging. If the sub is a 2-ohm, changing to a 4-ohm will not damage anything, the amplifier just will not provide as much power to it thereby decreasing sound output. I searched and searched for an infinite baffle 8" sub with not much luck. It seems this technology was very popular in the late 80's early 90's but has gone by the wayside. Good luck.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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8" IB subs are more and more rare.

The JL ZR800 comes to mind. It is made for IB installs.

The magic numbers to look for on an IB sub is Qts above .5 (and the closer .7, the better, with .707 being ideal), and a high X-max so good volume can be achieved. There is MORE to it than that, but that's enough to get you started.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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I called Crutchfield on the phone, great guys that know their stuff. I ended up with 4 Polk Audio db501's and a Rockford Fosgate P1S48 8" Sub. We're putting them in as I speak. I'll let you know how they sound. Anyone else tried these?
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jbelway how did the install go? any issues with those components? i am looking to upgrade my speakers and if your install went well i will use same components.
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Originally Posted by jbelway
I called Crutchfield on the phone, great guys that know their stuff. I ended up with 4 Polk Audio db501's and a Rockford Fosgate P1S48 8" Sub. We're putting them in as I speak. I'll let you know how they sound. Anyone else tried these?
How does the Fosgate sound? I thought that 8" sub had to have an enclosure? Either sealed or vented. Did you use the factory mounting bracket, or did you fabricate a new one? Would love to see pics if you took them.
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I figure I can add something of substance to this thread now.

Head Unit: Eclipse AVN5510
Component Speakers: Hybrid Audio Clarus
Amplifier: Cadence ZRS-7504 (bridged 2x300w)

Started with this:
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Filled gaping hole with this and sealed to door with silicone:
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After B-Quiet sound deadener applied:
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Custom MDF baffles and rings made in my basement with a jigsaw and coated with 4 coats of paint to avoid water penetration:
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Baffles, speaker and crossover installed:
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You'll notice I used non-hardening modelling clay to seal the ring to the baffle and the baffle to the door.
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Closed cell foam added to door card where I thought it might be necessary:
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Double DIN installed. I painted the install kit but its still not right... obviously:
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Front stage amp installed under rear deck. Fiberglass subwoofer enclosure should be done soon and will be installed in passenger side trunk corner:
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Obviously I'm no professional. Actually this is my first audio install ever.
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