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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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We don't have very many rim/tuning options on Guam (where I'm from). I've been looking on the forums and have seen the range of offsets/rim sizes folks have been running. However, I haven't seen very much guidance on what fender mods need to be done as rim width/offset increase.

My question is: How much fender work needs to be done to comfortably run 18x8.5/9.5, 19x8.5/9.5 or 20x8.5 (all +35 or +38 offset) w/o major fender contact? Rolling 'em flat, or rolling + pulling fender, etc?

A bit of background: I have a bone-stock 2LS ('97) that I just bought. Pretty much all i've messed around with are "ricer" imports (celica, integra etc). Looking to go bippu eventually, incl. air susp.

One of the local rim shops discouraged me from proceeding w/ a 19x8.5/9.5 +35 setup. Upon test fit I loved the look of the rim sitting directly beneath my fender but sure as heck did not want to keep buying tires as they said would end up happening due to fender contact.

Was the wheel tech just being lazy (it was near closing time), or would the width/offset still cause major rubbing at stock height?
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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i got some 20" staggered if you want perfect offsets for LS4 no fender rolling required
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8.5+35 will require rolling in the front if you run a 245 series tire (which is the minimum i would run on an LS with that offset)

rear will be very close with a 8.5 +35 will be fine, 9.5 MIGHT require a roll.

fitment will be same regardless of 18 or 19" as long as O.D. of tires are the same.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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At least a 245 on an 8.5 PD? Forget that, that's too large imho. Look into running a 225 or 235 on an 8.5. It'll sit flush and you'll get optimal tire protection without mushrooming the tire with a fatty set-up.

You shouldn't have any problems fitting 19x8.5 19x9.5 as I ran 19x9 19x9.5 on my 1LS with minor fender rolling at most.
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At least a 245 on an 8.5 PD? Forget that, that's too large imho. Look into running a 225 or 235 on an 8.5. It'll sit flush and you'll get optimal tire protection without mushrooming the tire with a fatty set-up.

You shouldn't have any problems fitting 19x8.5 19x9.5 as I ran 19x9 19x9.5 on my 1LS with minor fender rolling at most.
you DO realize that oem LS430 18s were 18x7 or 7.5 and shipped with 245/45 tires standard right....

same OD for the LS400. (93-00)
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If you don't want to do fender mods, going with a 225 or 235 on the 8.5 will help. It's definately possible, I'm running a 225 on a 9.
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Originally Posted by chrispy
If you don't want to do fender mods, going with a 225 or 235 on the 8.5 will help. It's definately possible, I'm running a 225 on a 9.
2LS has a lot more room than 2GS or 1LS....
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a 2GS can run a more aggresive offset than a 2LS
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Originally Posted by anotherLS
a 2GS can run a more aggresive offset than a 2LS
in the rear

i know it can in the front by a bit, but rear? most ive seen back there is +20 (without a pull)
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Originally Posted by anotherLS
i got some 20" staggered if you want perfect offsets for LS4 no fender rolling required
anotherLS - you got PM.
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
in the rear

i know it can in the front by a bit, but rear? most ive seen back there is +20 (without a pull)
they have a wider fender than the LS..ive seen lower offset on a GS with no pull, just shaving the inner fender...the lowest i ran on our LS was a +15 with just shaved fenders
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im running a 10.5 +12 on the rear of mine with just a shave.

but alright, il take ur word for it since i dont have that much practical experience with the 2GS.
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neither do i, just from expirience working at the shop
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A fender is needed to get the right look ! !
and rolling the lip is easy.
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