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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by speedflex
I think in this sense exotic refers to materials and structure (lightweight composite, carbon fiber), engine placement (mid engine), price ($150k+), horsepower (450hp+), styling (more concept car than street car). Of course all this is subjective. There are no established rules as to what makes a car an exotic.
Oh, I know (we could also toss in limited production). I just think its funny when terms that ambiguous, get thrown around. Especially these days, the 'script' on how to build any car has been rewritten, with all types of vehicles blurring lines.

And the stormtrooper comment was funny, but I'd ask that you stop ruining the image for me.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
some said the same about the r8 too when audi decided to make the car. well we know how much respect the r8 is getting now

i am not saying that the lfa will get the same treatment, but i am saying with our standard (financially, mentally) it's hard to really understand what rich people (who can actually afford these cars) think
You could be right, and I'll reserve judgement until I can actually see one in person or at least pictures of the released version, however my initial impression is nevertheless a little underwhelming given what this car supposedly costs. I would position it to compete with the GTR, I think this could be a great GTR killer if the numbers were in its favor.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by encore888
I'm liking this angle a lot as well:


when i see that, i think........

'why buy something that looks like a ferrari, when you can have the real ferrari for less.."

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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what's the price tag on the lfa now? i didn't know it's over 300 already?
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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I was fortunate enough to see the race LF-A at pebble beach this year, I thought it looked amazing. Lucky for me I'm also attending the Tokyo Motor Show so hopefully I'll be able to see it in person once again. =)
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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That camo makes it look like a Mitsubishi 3000 GT.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
when i see that, i think........

'why buy something that looks like a ferrari, when you can have the real ferrari for less.."

I think from a side profile, it looks a lot like an exotic version of Toyota's older sports cars. However, if you must, maybe because it will probably be;

-faster
-better sounding
-more reliable
-more exclusive

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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
when i see that, i think........

'why buy something that looks like a ferrari, when you can have the real ferrari for less.."

You know. You do have a point there!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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As others have pointed out, this argument is kinda moot because many exotic owners collect such vehicles, they don't need to make a 'value' argument to buy X exotic because it's cheaper.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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interesting to see they contacted Big Bertha for side mirror manufacturing.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
what's the price tag on the lfa now? i didn't know it's over 300 already?
It seems like every month the speculators speculate about 100K more than before. Its at about 500K now.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Just for kicks i called my local lexus dealer, and aske dhim the waitlist on the LF-A/LF-L and he said they stopped taking confirmed orders after they got 5 people on the list because they did not know how many would be allocated to them.

They said the first 2 would sureley get a car within the first 3 months of launch. The sales guy said the GM has imposed a markup of about $75K. I said to him " I thought lexus does not do markups and that the company strongly discourages and does not motivate these kind of activities from its dealer network.

His answer was... "well this car is an exotic and exception which is why many other dealers would probably follow suit, similar to the Audi R8 in its first year inception"

His estimate was about $500,000 for a customer purchase price with a $425-$450K MSRP.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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let's start a bet on how soon someone will crash one of these.

I say within 2.5 weeks of mass release.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
It seems like every month the speculators speculate about 100K more than before. Its at about 500K now.
LF-A is 1 million dollars



Lets recap Lexus going upmarket...

Lexus debuts-"no one is going to buy a Japanese luxury brand"
Lexus sells in droves
Lexus expands V-8 GS "no one is going to buy a GS over a 5/E"
GS sells in droves
Lexus debuts SC 430 "no one is going to buy ugly small Lexus"
SC sells in droves
Lexus expands LS to include LWB, and the first $100,000 Japanese luxury car
"No one is going to buy an expensive LS and a stupid LS hybrid"
LS sells best in class, 600h sells 300% past expectations
Lexus presents LF-A-"No one is going to buy a stupid Lexus supercar"
hmmmmmm, history proves otherwise.....

Internetz is funny
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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I don't like the design at all. I think it looks bulky and "blocky". The lines dont flow at all in this car. The front reminds me 98 Mitsubishi 3000gt. With such a high price tag and only 500 units I would have hoped Lexus would make this not only a engineering marvel, but a work of art for the ages...a timeless classic.
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