LF-A will debut in Tokyo...Details Oct 21st...
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I haven't seen any other supercar that has a rear end like the LF A, with the strange shape of the rear radiators, the triangular exhaust, and the rear tails.
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I do personally know bit so call me biased but I find he has a fine eye for design and we agree a lot on it. He nearly single handedly influenced my GS mods. His GS was very tasteful, here is a pic before he sold it. Clean, tasteful, subtle and HREs ftw! I've had the pleasure of visiting both his homes and the design is fantastic, especially the one in FL he had a huge hand in.
I'm with him, I don't see 3000GT and that is a car I like and see monthly at meets.
I'm with him, I don't see 3000GT and that is a car I like and see monthly at meets.
Just tell the man he has no taste....
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The R8 V10 is rated at 525 HP adn as far as I know the LF-A will be around that much HP as well. When you get up to this price range, its hard to differentiate performance. So I guess the real quaestion will be, will people consider the LF-A in the same class as the rest of the $350000 cars.
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There is some insider info which claims the LF-A II exterior design did not meet Toyota's performance expectations in the wind tunnel, and combined with some mixed reaction at autoshows compared to the LF-A I concept, they changed the styling to what you see in these pictures.
The R8 V10 is rated at 525 HP adn as far as I know the LF-A will be around that much HP as well. When you get up to this price range, its hard to differentiate performance. So I guess the real quaestion will be, will people consider the LF-A in the same class as the rest of the $350000 cars.
Just like the Nissan GT-R, the R8 V10 is nothing more than a Porsche 911 Turbo competitor. Except, the R8 V10 is much more expensive than the GT-R. The regular R8 is a competitor to regular 911 models.
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Is the AUDI V-10 worth twice as much as a GT-R? Is a Bugatti worth 3 times as much as a Porsche CGT? Is a GT2 worth 3 times as much as a base 911?
These cars are not about value, they are about exclusivity, looks, panache, showmanship, stats, heritage (not in Audi/Lexus case here) and performance.
The Audi is cheaper b/c it shares with Lambo. The LF-A is all bespoke and everything is created from the ground up for it.
These cars are not about value, they are about exclusivity, looks, panache, showmanship, stats, heritage (not in Audi/Lexus case here) and performance.
The Audi is cheaper b/c it shares with Lambo. The LF-A is all bespoke and everything is created from the ground up for it.
Could have fooled me and their 100 year history.
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I am well aware of Audi's heritage and even their wonderful TDI racers.
You missed the entire point tough, the R8 is the first "supercar" Audi. They are not Ferrari or Lambo, Porsche etc, thus there is no "heritage" with the R8. No no way am I knocking the R8 but it is what it is. It "looks" exotic but its pricetag is actually reasonable. I'm not sure if is makes others in this class look way overpriced or b/c it shares parts. The R8 has the V-8 from the RS4, the LF-A will not offer a V-8 from the IS-F for example.
Reading the Ferrari etc forums, many completely dismiss the car b/c it is an Audi. I expect the same from a lot of people when the LF-A is sold "oh an exotic Lexus, it probably sucks" and the same ole dumbass rhetoric.
The bottom line is my point is the R8 and LF-A have no immediate heritage b/c they have no predecessor(s). The R8 had a few "concept" predecessors but no production cars. Has Audi been around for 100 years? Yup. Are most of their cars sold small FWD A4 4 cylinders? Yup.
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The black car clears up how the front headlamps are going to look like. Looks like there will be a sort of "S" line leading from the air dams, edging the headlamp, making the bodaciously huge front fenders, curving around into the top air intake on the side. The white car does a good job of hiding this line, which I find kind of ugly on the black car from a directly front view. Interesting detail though... I'll reserve further judgement til the camo is off.
And seriously what's up with the fins sticking up in the rear? I thought the middle spoiler would be flush with them when retracted but dude they just STICK OUT RANDOMLY
And seriously what's up with the fins sticking up in the rear? I thought the middle spoiler would be flush with them when retracted but dude they just STICK OUT RANDOMLY
The black car clears up how the front headlamps are going to look like. Looks like there will be a sort of "S" line leading from the air dams, edging the headlamp, making the bodaciously huge front fenders, curving around into the top air intake on the side. The white car does a good job of hiding this line, which I find kind of ugly on the black car from a directly front view. Interesting detail though... I'll reserve further judgement til the camo is off.
And seriously what's up with the fins sticking up in the rear? I thought the middle spoiler would be flush with them when retracted but dude they just STICK OUT RANDOMLY
And seriously what's up with the fins sticking up in the rear? I thought the middle spoiler would be flush with them when retracted but dude they just STICK OUT RANDOMLY
Looks like the black car is actually missing the spoiler... dosnt it?
maybe its there and we cant see it, but it looks like its missing.... and it also seems like the spoiler should align with the flaps on the sides if it was there...could this be another version of the LF-A? (race ready version?) ... time will tell...