I just heard from the manufacturer and they said they are running a little behind on anodizing since I need them to be black to go with the wheels. I'll update when I receive them, but likely to be mid-december earliest

 

I plan on 15mm as well. Mind sharing a pic?

 

I haven't received them yet, they aren't made yet either

 

Look forward to seeing your set-up🤙🏽

 

So I got the spacers in today. The spacers themselves appear to be very high quality. The only problem appears to be that they've sent me 8 of the wrong size lug bolt, and 12 of the correct size. I've contacted them to send 8 more of the correct R14 bolt, I think the 8 small ones they sent are R13 and appear to be a MM or 2 shorter. You can see the difference in bolts in the pic.

I might mount the rears since I have 12 properly sized bolts, then wait on the fronts for the other 8 bolts to come in.

 

With 20 specialty bolts that will be removed and reinstalled multiple times over the years, I’d suggest asking for a couple of spares—though I tend to overthink things, so feel free to ignore me, lol

 

Those bolts appear to have a fixed tapered/convex bit rather than a washer like the factory ones or the ones I received with my spacers



I need to contact the manufacturer as I feel the outside diameter is a little smaller than it could be, it should be nearer to the diameter of the mating surface of the wheel

 

Yes as I understand the bolts that I have work just fine even without the washer bit as the total surface area contacting the wheel is the same. I verified by placing the OEM in the wheel with the wheel off and placing the one I got next to it, both contact the same area on the wheel when sitting flush ie tight. I verified the sides of the OEM bolt do not contact the wheel for grip, only the curved spherical part. Same for the bolts I have.

Yours will no doubt work properly as well. Here are mine with the rears installed. I'll do the fronts when I get the proper bolts in.

 

Opps I didn't work that very well, I meant the outside diameter of the actual spacer

I too noticed the diameter of the washer was much smaller than OEM but I checked it & it is indeed the appropriate size to contact the wheel properly, the larger diameter of the OEM washer isn't touching anything

 

when i got my AvantGarde wheels the lugs were the same length/dia.but the ball that cinches up to the wheel was smaller,,totally different from stock..

 

Yup the OE wheel accepts a spherical bolt, which the OE bolts and these replacements that we got are. 99% of aftermarket wheels will have a conical seat and accept a conical bolt, which undoubtedly will appear smaller and more angular as opposed to the rounded seat of the OE bolts. As long as the mating surface area of the bolt is the correct seat and size to the wheel you're good.

 

20mm looks perfect!

 

Yes agree! I test fitted the fronts today with the smaller bolts just to see the look. They are sending me the right size bolts by Monday so I'll replace them then before I drive it anywhere. 20mm is indeed perfect. I thought it might be 5mm too shallow and should have gone with 25mm but then clearly the bottom of the wheel would poke quite a bit. As it sits now it's nearly flush at the bottom of the wheel (slight poke) and slightly tucked at the top due to the negative camber. I think the poke that would result at the bottom from having it flush at the top would be too much for me.

 

I went 15mm because I didn't want the wheels out so far that they could throw even more stones down the side of the car....our roads are trash...even the best ones....

 

For my 2026. Based on this discussion, and others I found, I also went with the Bonoss 7075 forged lightweight plus 20mm with extended bolts all around am very happy with them. The Bonoss folks were super easy and nice to work with as well. I put them on first day I had the car and think it looks much nicer with them. 20mm seems best to me.