Notices
IS F (2008-2014) Discussion topics related to the IS F model

Dyno before and after Headers 🤷🏼*♂️

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:15 AM
  #1  
yoshua60's Avatar
yoshua60
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default Dyno before and after Headers 🤷🏼*♂️



Orange is before blue is after PPE headers. Dyno is practically the same. The temperature during Dyno was about 32F before headers and 96F after. The tech noticed the AF to be around 13.3 vs in the 12s before. Just curious what you guys think. Mods are FBO, RR tuned intake, Magnaflow Cats and Exhaust. TIA.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:49 AM
  #2  
Dv8tion388's Avatar
Dv8tion388
Lead Lap
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 448
Likes: 3
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by yoshua60


Orange is before blue is after PPE headers. Dyno is practically the same. The temperature during Dyno was about 32F before headers and 96F after. The tech noticed the AF to be around 13.3 vs in the 12s before. Just curious what you guys think. Mods are FBO, RR tuned intake, Magnaflow Cats and Exhaust. TIA.
You need a reflash, the ecu is ****ing you.

~Dv8
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:12 AM
  #3  
flowrider's Avatar
flowrider
Lexus Champion
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,263
Likes: 2,393
From: Arizona
Default

What exhaust? Your before looks high, stock should be between 345 and 355 RWHP. Your after looks low, headers with exhaust should be in the 390s at the wheels. my last Dyno, and few years ago I was at 392 and a friend without cats was at 399.

Lou
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 12:06 PM
  #4  
liquidtek's Avatar
liquidtek
Advanced
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 637
Likes: 97
From: CO
Default

You need to remove the cover on the RR intake for best results per RR with the tuned intake on a dyno. Also you should have went with comparable temps. A 60 deg difference is obviously going to rape your IAT which vastly affects your timing so its not even really a fair comparison.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 01:26 PM
  #5  
minator's Avatar
minator
Pit Crew
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 136
Likes: 11
From: CO
Default

Blue graph looks bumpy like it’s pulling timing. The air temp is definitely affecting power output. The leaner af ratio indicates more air is flowing, all else being equal
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 04:55 PM
  #6  
Jwconeil's Avatar
Jwconeil
Moderator
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,069
Likes: 978
From: Indiana
Default

Originally Posted by liquidtek
You need to remove the cover on the RR intake for best results per RR with the tuned intake on a dyno. Also you should have went with comparable temps. A 60 deg difference is obviously going to rape your IAT which vastly affects your timing so its not even really a fair comparison.
this. You can’t compare the two. That’s a massive difference in air density.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 05:21 PM
  #7  
msgs350's Avatar
msgs350
Pole Position
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,581
Likes: 246
From: WA
Default

How is Texas 32F degrees in the summer?
But agree with others here, heat soak will effect this car, especially with the RR tune.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 05:40 PM
  #8  
Jwconeil's Avatar
Jwconeil
Moderator
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,069
Likes: 978
From: Indiana
Default

Here in Indy we can see cars ET change by a half second between the humid summer and the cool fall. It makes a massive difference. You should make sure you have a good tune and just dyno when the temperature drops again, this time with the air box lid off. Your numbers will be better.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 11:20 AM
  #9  
yoshua60's Avatar
yoshua60
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by flowrider
What exhaust? Your before looks high, stock should be between 345 and 355 RWHP. Your after looks low, headers with exhaust should be in the 390s at the wheels. my last Dyno, and few years ago I was at 392 and a friend without cats was at 399.

Lou
Magnaflow Exhaust and hiflow cats
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 11:24 AM
  #10  
yoshua60's Avatar
yoshua60
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by liquidtek
You need to remove the cover on the RR intake for best results per RR with the tuned intake on a dyno. Also you should have went with comparable temps. A 60 deg difference is obviously going to rape your IAT which vastly affects your timing so its not even really a fair comparison.
Thanks! Good to know for next time. Ya, I'm in Houston, so I won't see those temps for 6 months, if I even see them again. Lol. I knew it wouldn't be ideal, but I thought I'd see some gain at least, since it does feel much faster. But I get it, not apples to apples. FWIW, both dynos were performed the same way (neither one had the airbox removed). I'll check again in winter.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 11:25 AM
  #11  
yoshua60's Avatar
yoshua60
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by msgs350
How is Texas 32F degrees in the summer?
But agree with others here, heat soak will effect this car, especially with the RR tune.
Lol. Especially HTX! But its the weather. I scheduled it around work, and I got lucky with a cold front in the winter.

Last edited by yoshua60; Jul 25, 2018 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Misspelled
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 11:57 AM
  #12  
Defratos's Avatar
Defratos
Racer
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 77
From: On a sand dune
Default

What's your KCLV out of curiosity
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 12:32 PM
  #13  
glerink's Avatar
glerink
Driver
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 168
Likes: 17
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by msgs350
How is Texas 32F degrees in the summer?
I thought I was the only one that noticed that, I would think that in itself would make a huge difference it was a lot hotter in the after from 32F before to 92F after

Last edited by glerink; Jul 25, 2018 at 12:38 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 12:36 PM
  #14  
Jwconeil's Avatar
Jwconeil
Moderator
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,069
Likes: 978
From: Indiana
Default

I can’t wait until fall for some drag strip hooligans. I hope to be faster.

what is KCLV?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 12:59 PM
  #15  
yoshua60's Avatar
yoshua60
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Jwconeil
I can’t wait until fall for some drag strip hooligans. I hope to be faster.

what is KCLV?

I had to look it up. Idk. Does it display in the OBD handheld?
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:33 AM.