Which Oil Filter?
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l-filters.html
However it only speculates that one could use it in the IS-F. I can’t say for sure those caps limit flow, however I am speculating as such, since all wix filters recommended for the high performance Lexus engines don’t have the caps. I’m not an engineer, but I’d only use the wix 57310 or the OEM filter in my IS-f. I think for most though any SN 5w-30 with a 5000 mile OCI and any filter that fits will get the IS-f engine to 250000 miles without much difficulty.
I have run both the YZZ4 filter and the spec filter for the 2UR-GSE. I have oil analysis results with both including track weekends. There is no difference in wear. I also use extended drain intervals (12k miles) and run the same oil for the same period including track weekends without any significant variability in used oil analysis results. The biggest difference in my results was when Mobil 1 reformulated their oil, not when I changed filters.
I currently have the Lexus specified filters and I am using them on both my GS F and IS F. I have seen no difference at all, and I do not drive the cars (either of them) with a light foot.
I currently have the Lexus specified filters and I am using them on both my GS F and IS F. I have seen no difference at all, and I do not drive the cars (either of them) with a light foot.
I’m not sure that filter is actually recommended for the IS-F. When I went to the TRD site, It didn’t list that filter as compatible with the IS-f(or any official recs for Lexus vehicles) and when I searched the part number with IS-F I found this thread.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l-filters.html
However it only speculates that one could use it in the IS-F. I can’t say for sure those caps limit flow, however I am speculating as such, since all wix filters recommended for the high performance Lexus engines don’t have the caps. I’m not an engineer, but I’d only use the wix 57310 or the OEM filter in my IS-f. I think for most though any SN 5w-30 with a 5000 mile OCI and any filter that fits will get the IS-f engine to 250000 miles without much difficulty.
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i "took one for the team" and i bought both oil filters so i could check them out...
here's some snaps:
there's def a difference in the color so i'm guessing the material will be slightly different as well
as you can read on the box, they're made in different locations as a previous poster mentioned as well
the kit on the right comes with some plastic adaptor piece and an extra o-ring
list price for the YZZA4 is $5.41
list price for the 51010 is $11.57
here's some snaps:
there's def a difference in the color so i'm guessing the material will be slightly different as well
as you can read on the box, they're made in different locations as a previous poster mentioned as well
the kit on the right comes with some plastic adaptor piece and an extra o-ring
list price for the YZZA4 is $5.41
list price for the 51010 is $11.57
sized them up side by side. The physical difference that i found
counted 43 pleats with the YZZA4
counted 45 pleats with the 51010
can someone else count the pleats, and see if its consistant
if it is 43 vs 45 pleats.. the ISF 51010 has more filter surface
Since my last post to this forum I have switched to a WIX XP filter. PN 57041XP. There have been a couple of threads recommending this filter. I have done additional research, and am convinced of the superiority of this filter. And, yes it has plastic end caps.
Since we're now counting pleats - I came up with 44.
Lou
Since we're now counting pleats - I came up with 44.
Lou
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Purchased a used 2014 ISF 250, I had 3 free oil changes from the Lexus dealer.
Now that its over I decided to do my own oil change.
So following this thread I went to Toyota and bought a YZZA4 filter.
When I pulled the old oil filter element out it was over a inch shorter.
Took it to the Toyota dealer so they can match the size it and they gave me YZZA3.
So I assume the Lexus dealer screwed me on my free oil changes by going cheap on the filters or the shorter ones are usable too.
I did a search and it seems the YZZA3 can be used on the standard IS250.
Now that its over I decided to do my own oil change.
So following this thread I went to Toyota and bought a YZZA4 filter.
When I pulled the old oil filter element out it was over a inch shorter.
Took it to the Toyota dealer so they can match the size it and they gave me YZZA3.
So I assume the Lexus dealer screwed me on my free oil changes by going cheap on the filters or the shorter ones are usable too.
I did a search and it seems the YZZA3 can be used on the standard IS250.
Purchased a used 2014 ISF 250, I had 3 free oil changes from the Lexus dealer.
Now that its over I decided to do my own oil change.
So following this thread I went to Toyota and bought a YZZA4 filter.
When I pulled the old oil filter element out it was over a inch shorter.
Took it to the Toyota dealer so they can match the size it and they gave me YZZA3.
So I assume the Lexus dealer screwed me on my free oil changes by going cheap on the filters or the shorter ones are usable too.
I did a search and it seems the YZZA3 can be used on the standard IS250.
Now that its over I decided to do my own oil change.
So following this thread I went to Toyota and bought a YZZA4 filter.
When I pulled the old oil filter element out it was over a inch shorter.
Took it to the Toyota dealer so they can match the size it and they gave me YZZA3.
So I assume the Lexus dealer screwed me on my free oil changes by going cheap on the filters or the shorter ones are usable too.
I did a search and it seems the YZZA3 can be used on the standard IS250.
Lou
Quick question... prolly for Lou or Lance. And perhaps already answered in this thread. Does the IS-F oil filter need end caps? Or can the pleats be open ended? Got annoyed today when my K&N showed up and didn’t have end caps like the pic on both Amazon and the box showed, but then saw some Toyota filters that showed open ended pleats as well...
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You do NOT have an ISF, you have an IS250 F-Sport. Completely different animals. The iSF has a larger oil filter housing and takes a larger oil filter. The Toyota PN 04152-YZZ3 is the correct OEM oil filter for your vehicle. The correct Wix PN is 57153, There does not appear to be an XP version of that filter. Your dealer did not screw you, he used the correct filter for your IS250. The ISF filter WILL NOT fit your car!
Lou
Lou
Thanks Lou
Quick question... prolly for Lou or Lance. And perhaps already answered in this thread. Does the IS-F oil filter need end caps? Or can the pleats be open ended? Got annoyed today when my K&N showed up and didn’t have end caps like the pic on both Amazon and the box showed, but then saw some Toyota filters that showed open ended pleats as well...
https://www.knfilters.com/oil-filter...018-oil-filter
Though some of the smaller illustrations show it both ways
Lou