My sales manager was on a lexus confrence call yesterday and the official hp is...415!!!

base price is @ $55,500 but for several months they are going to be built close to $59,000

Big dealerships like mine are prob gonna get @ 2/month..smaller ones 1 if any..(Eastern region)

If that's true, I'll be going with the M3.

Sorry, your sales manager is wrong or was simply given false information .

People here at CL with direct sources at Lexus have already proven that the 415HP number some sales managers keep hearing about is false. The car will have more HP than that .

Nice, 55k for 415 horsepower which has 1 more horsepower than the M3 which starts at 60k, HAHA ITS A STEAL!

Plus over 50 pounds more of torque!

But remember, BMW has a history of understating their true performance numbers...so im gonna wait till they do some comparsion test before I make any conclusions.

back that up with something...the people who LEXUS sends the cars to ARE the "direct sources"

I am sorry but your sale manage is wrong. He is just telling you what he thinks.

I went to the Lexus performance test driving event in Leguna Seca, and there was Lexus IS-F marketing representative, and we were all told, pricing won't be announced until 2 weeks before the car is released.

The official HP rating won't be final until EPA do the MPG testing, which won't happen until next 2 months.

Moreover, the press won't even get to test drive until for another 2 months.

And, I was told that it will be class leading horse power (more than new M3, and RS4, but not C63)

There is nothing official about a dealer telling you anything... Unless we see a press release from Lexus themselves, it is NOT official.

ok ..I understand what you are sayin but we talk to marketing reps, area reps ect, all the time ...they do have alot of good info.. in this case the person was prob talking about the date the info is released to the public..
I have pricing sheets str8 from lexus, so i'm 100% confident`about the pricing and 99% sure abt the hp
...im having flashbacks of this kind of discussionwhen the IS came out

where do you think the release goes before it hits the "press"
dealerships dont look in the paper to find out info about their cars

Dude, you can believe what you want, it doens't really matter. The fact is that it is NOT official... Even if it MAY be accurate, it is still not official. There needs to be a public statement by Lexus before anything can be official. What you are posting is not a public release and it is not by lexus. Very similar to months back when everyone kept posting "it's official, there will be a V8 IS" no, it wasn't official, and it stayed UNofficial until Lexus came out and said "yes, there will be a V8 IS, and it will be called the IS-F"

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...=298463&page=2

Look at post #30 by Flipside909. He has very reliable and very real sources inside Lexus. I won't speak for him, but I trust him and his sources before trusting some sales manager at a dealership.

Also, if you read some of the other posts in the IS-F forum discussing the technical aspects of the IS-F's engine, then 415HP just doesn't make sense.

I would be interested to see the pricing sheet. Not that I don't trust you or anything, I am curious to see the pricing info as well. Please post it up if you don't mind sharing with the rest of the club.

Thanks

I agree. Lexus corporate always tells the dealerships first before they tell anyone else so that everyone's on the same page.
However, since this was a conference call and not an actual dealer meeting (where better info is given out to GM's), perhaps you can be so kind as to go back to your boss and confirm the hp and msrp because I remember before the 2IS came out they said it was going to be at least 300 hp right up until the car was released and it is 306. Specific wording is pretty important when you are dealing with all the rabid IS-F fanatics out here.