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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JBison73
In Canada it's in the mid 50's.....I don't think that is the price in the US. But I agree, that 60k in the US and 70k here in Canada is likely for an IS500. Hell, the TLX S type is in the 55-60k range and that's a V6 with far less power than the IS500 would have.
Pricing has yet to be released on the Type S, but it likely won't start that high, and Acura doesn't offer much in the way of add-able features (one of their main advantages/disadvantages). It would be a very hard sell if this thing was priced similarly to an M340i. The way I'd build it, it would come in around $61k with incentives already being given on them. Oh well, just figured I'd ask ... sounds like it's likely never happening. It'll probably be a miracle if Lexus even brings the IS back for a 4th gen with how poor sales are, let alone dump more money into a hi-po variant. Shame, I think they're great looking cars and fell in love with the IS-F. This refresh looks very good, especially in white ... just nothing by the way of performance under the hood.
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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by leebk
Bolts are inferior to a stud/nut set-up. Just because the Europeans do it, doesn't make it superior. More consistent torque across the face of the wheel. There's a reason high boost, high horsepower applications switch over from cylinder head bolts to a stud/nut set-up to prevent lift. Plus, it makes mounting the wheels a pain in the *** compared to a stud/lug set-up.
Well couple of observations... The LFA comes with the special high strength light weight lug bolts.
It also comes with "helper" wheel pilot pins.. I wouldn't necessarily say that's inferior..

I would suspect some of this similar technology is now finally making it into the 2021 IS..

Back to the Nuts & Bolts

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Repairers will notice a change on the other side of the wheels as well. The 2021 IS uses “lighter weight hub bolts” compared to the 2020 IS wheel nuts, reducing unsprung weight by about 2 pounds.

“The use of hub bolts allows for improved fastening strength and therefore an increase to rigidity to further enhance braking and handling,” Lexus wrote. “… The new bolts also feature a black coating so as not to draw any attention away from the attractive new wheel designs.”


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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 10:00 PM
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My 2020 IS350 F-Sport MSRP was $46.6k back in May. That was with no options. Those with options were at or still under $50k. I am sure the next version is going to climb. Incentives in two years will bring it right back down. IS's lease very well after the initial hype dies off. The current base IS300 is now at $299/mo. and the IS350 F-Sport is now at $320/mo. One more month and it all jumps up.




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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
My IS350 F-Sport MSRP was $46.6k back in May. That was with no options. Those with options were at or still under $50k. I am sure the next version is going to climb. Incentives in two years will bring it right back down. IS's lease very well after the initial hype dies off. The current base IS300 is now at $299/mo. and the IS350 F-Sport is now at $320/mo. One more month and it all jumps up.
Even with the refresh it still won't sell that well. It might actually be worse because 95% of the IS models previously sold were the 250's/200t/300. Now you can't even get those in an fsport.
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Old Sep 22, 2020 | 11:32 PM
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I think we will see 1 to 2k in incentives by December to remember, plus like 6 to 8% off if ya negotiate right. The IS is not a good seller, at all.
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Glad to see the wheel bolts in the flesh. That's what all modern/sophisticated cars need to do like the europeans.

Lug nuts are so honda civic economy rental car.

hope lexus continues this trend to new models to streamline things.
Yep, I just love how the wheel falls off when I remove my lug bolts on my GTI, great feature!

I don't know if there's a particular advantage of bolts other than fewer parts to keep track of (as opposed to studs + nuts).
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 09:05 AM
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Damage the thread of the hub, gotta replace the whole hub.. damage a stud, replace that stud... Why change imo, a better design...
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 09:28 AM
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 10:25 AM
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No test drives/rides at this time? What the heck, Lexus thinking this is brand new model?

If they keep on making it this exclusive people will pay full sticker.
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
No test drives/rides at this time? What the heck, Lexus thinking this is brand new model?

If they keep on making it this exclusive people will pay full sticker.

Those cars are not available for test drive - they are not dealer stock cars or inventory..

They are pre production demos from Lexus Corp.

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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Z
Those cars are not available for test drive - they are not dealer stock cars or inventory..

They are pre production demos from Lexus Corp.

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When does the embargo end?
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 04:02 PM
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Here is another video on the IS 350 F Sport.
Wow he's a crazy driver. lol


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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
No test drives/rides at this time? What the heck, Lexus thinking this is brand new model?

If they keep on making it this exclusive people will pay full sticker.
Nobody is going to pay anywhere close to MSRP on this car. It will be the normal 15% to 20% off in So Cal by February. If not sooner....
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
Here is another video on the IS 350 F Sport.
Wow he's a crazy driver. lol

https://youtu.be/--D-89e6KG0
My man is not shy about throwing it into a corner...right on!
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryJG
Nobody is going to pay anywhere close to MSRP on this car. It will be the normal 15% to 20% off in So Cal by February. If not sooner....
I have to agree. In a segment where its been completely disrupted by the horsepower wars, new entrants, and a migration to CUVs, all Lexus did was a facelift and handling improvements. Its not going to help sales much.
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