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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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What do you guys know about these type of thefts? I just ordered a Faraday Bag
for my IS and my wife's Infiniti QX30.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...tack-1.5380947

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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 02:57 PM
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same here. ordered Faraday as well.

NX300 2018. How safe are our key fobs? Do they have built-in movement sensor to self disable while not in use?
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 04:48 PM
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No two-factor on the keyless system, so no security at all. The car doesn't even care if the key is inside the vehicle or not when started. If they can relay the signal, they can just drive off without it present.

I store my keys in an ammo can and otherwise keep them in a faraday pouch if I'm out and about. Beyond that, if they really want your car, they will take it anyway given enough motivation. Just do what is reasonable for security and convenience and don't dwell on it.

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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by m1919
No two-factor on the keyless system, so no security at all. The car doesn't even care if the key is inside the vehicle or not when started. If they can relay the signal, they can just drive off without it present.

I store my keys in an ammo can and otherwise keep them in a faraday pouch if I'm out and about. Beyond that, if they really want your car, they will take it anyway given enough motivation. Just do what is reasonable for security and convenience and don't dwell on it.
Faraday Pouch and no worrying. Plenty of other things to dwell on.
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 06:45 PM
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My first comment is that I'm going to take this as a compliment...cause they're not stealing BMW's or MB's...just Toyota products
The fact is that thieves have been stealing RAV4, Highlander, 4Runner, RX, GX, and LX for years...so this isn't really new news...Especially from cities with access to open water like Ottawa and parts of Quebec.
And the fact is they don't want to ship crap overseas that's going to give them constant trouble with repairs that require expensive parts.

Also it's not that Toyota vehicles are any more or less vulnerable than other vehicles...they can steal the other ones just as easy.
The premise on how Smart Keys work is fairly consistent across manufacturers...so it's really all about what they want to steal...and opportunity of course.
I would assume insurance is going to cover the cost of replacement...and regardless if you make a claim or not, your insurance is going to go up at the end of the year anyways, so might as well let them buy you a new vehicle.

I do keep my keys near the front door...in a metal key box...but that was more happenstance than deliberate.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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it's just a car. i wouldn't worry about making it too hard to steal. you'll just want to make them force their way inside your house and get the keys from you. yeah some of you might say bUt I'Ll dEfEnD mYseLf. I get it. but it's better to avoid confrontation if you can. especially over a car.
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Originally Posted by E46CT
it's just a car. i wouldn't worry about making it too hard to steal. you'll just want to make them force their way inside your house and get the keys from you. yeah some of you might say bUt I'Ll dEfEnD mYseLf. I get it. but it's better to avoid confrontation if you can. especially over a car.
It's tough to get into our house. Security doors, steel doors front and back. Monitored alarm. Security light.
The Ring doorbell. No guarantee, but they'll probably move on. I think it's best to make things as difficult as possible for thieves.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 04:34 PM
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...or wrap the fob in aluminum foil.
Has anyone found a faraday sleeve that is a perfect snug fit for the 3IS fob?, the generic ones are all over sized.
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You can disable the key fob so that it will no longer receive radio waves (and therefore will not respond when the thief spoofs your car). Press and hold the lock button, then press the unlock button 2x, and the keyless entry will no longer work. You can turn the fob back on by pressing any button on it.
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Originally Posted by GNS
You can disable the key fob so that it will no longer receive radio waves (and therefore will not respond when the thief spoofs your car). Press and hold the lock button, then press the unlock button 2x, and the keyless entry will no longer work. You can turn the fob back on by pressing any button on it.
Thanks for the suggestion. We have two cars (two key fobs each) with keyless entry and keyless start, so this is a bit much to do on a nightly basis. I'm sure it will be a good
solution for others. Thanks again.

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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzrock
Thanks for the suggestion. We have two cars with keyless entry and keyless start, so this is a bit much to do on a nightly basis. I'm sure it will be a good
solution for others. Thanks again.
Insert into foil or faraday sleeve when you get home is an easy solution.
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