UGH! What is with Toyota styling? The new Prius is a porker and this ain't much better. Def prefer a NA engine, but need to produce more power and add a better ZF transmission. Is it too much to ask to skip gears on downshifts?

 

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It was a tough decision but I did it and have no remorse. Just ordered a .2017 A4 quattro (AWD). Pure white (Ibis white) with black leather interior/matt grey oak inserts with the sport package (upgraded fully adjustable sport seats and black headliner) and the 19" wheel package (car comes with 245/35 tires and is lowered 1" with the 19" wheel package). As soon as it arrives in mid November I'll get a APR Stage1 tune good for 314hp/388tq (just released this week for the B9 A4). and maybe RS7 wheels.

There were just to many little things I didn't like about the IS350 to buy another one. I think more than anything it was the engine (lack of torque) and transmission (ASIN tranny not programmed right for my tastes meaning that in normal mode it was always in too high a gear coming out of turns) that led me away from the IS. The slow nav and some of the cheap plastic interior pieces really didn't bother me all that much. I really don't like the new front end on the 2017 IS so I guess that really clinched my exit from the Lexus fold.

I've test driven the A4 twice now with the 19's and it handles and rides really nicely. With the APR tune (0-60 in 4.8 seconds) it should be a fun ride..

People put down the A4 but the new B9 is nothing like the older B8 A4. Totally different animal other than looking similar..

Audi reliability is right behind Lexus and Toyota right now so i'm not worried about that in the least either.

I think for most people the IS is a great car and it really is a pretty nice car imo. It just didn't competely do it for me. Maybe the Audi A4 won't either. Maybe that's why they make the RS7. (aka my dream car)

 

Just give it some time. Lexus will produce a TT V6 soon. They have to to stay competitive.

 

The problem is that how much more time can we give them? I understand that they want their new engines to be reliable, but using an engine that debuted in 2005 is ridiculous. They really need to put out a new TT 6 cylinder engine and use ZF's 8-speed instead of the AISIN one.

 

Looking good now they just need to drop in V8 RCF engine in IS.

 

When will The 17s come out....

 

And add about 50 to 100 foot pounds of torque to it.

 

I dig the new headlights.. but was hoping for a little more.

 

Well this is interesting. It looks like, for the 17 models without navigation, you'll be able to use navigation on your display audio screen through your phone.

https://lexusenthusiast.com/2016/08/...t-2017-models/

It doesn't sound like uses Apple Maps or Google Maps, so I am curious if this Scout app will be any good.

 

That is interesting...at the bottom of the ScoutGPSLInk website, it says "2017 RX models..." so likely not IS models. The IS nav is horrible...I dont regret getting it because I may feel incomplete w/o it, but I never use it. I just have my phone mounted up high and use that.

 

^Yep. Glad I saved myself the $1,500 with no navigation. Found the phone maps superior anyways.

 

Audi is not reliable? How does it feel living in a bubble?

 

New 2017 Lexus IS Promo:

 

Cool video.