Yep. It's funny how people hate on the q50 in the thread when the mmc blows away the is

 

The only reason I wouldn't get a Q60 is that some forum members have gotten RCFs for $63k out the door. I'd get the RCF over the 340 and q50 all day long for that price.

 

I agree with this. The competitors are stepping up their game while we pin our heads on Reliability. If that was a the case I would drive a Camry. My 2016 is350 should not be getting beat by a 2012 is350 or a 2013 335i sedan lol

 

I'm having trouble justifying getting another IS350 in the fall when my lease is up. I just test drove the new audi A4 and it's 4cyl is just as smooth as the 6 cyl in the Lexus. It feels faster and there isn't any turbo lag to speak of. Handling, braking, and comfort over broken pavement with the 19" sport pkg wheels was superb. Where's the 19" wheel option for Lexus? 4-6 mpg over the IS350 is a plus also. Lexus needs to wow me with the new nav screen, driver assists and interior because the front of the 2017 Lexus is starting to really look like an alien spaceship or a catfish with this refresh. Audi's new 12" virtual cockpit absolutely smokes the Lexus in the technology department also. Audi's are now very reliable so the argument for buying an underpowered $50k Lexus with yesterday's technology because it's reliable is starting to not hold water any more. I have a 2013 A5 (purchased new) that's never been back to the dealer for anything other than oil changes and tire rotations.

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2...-brands/3.html

I may buy another Lexus but the Audi A4 at the same price point is going to get a long hard look when the time comes.

 

I feel the same way, I was looking at the BMW 328i M-Sport, these engines are disappointing me, and how the 328 can accelerate to 60 around the same time as the IS350 despite the 60 horsepower difference. I actually love the look of the 2017's though.

 

Audi is not reliable that's a joke and they are also 1 of the world's most fraudulent companies. However, yes Lexus needs to add HP.

 

Exactly. I can't believe the emotions, over a face-lift.

Newer does not equal better.

 

Judging from the pictures.... doesn't seem like the f sport model will get memory seat

 

I'm not sure what you drove, but my sister has a new A4, and between the electronic throttle and turbo lag, it sucks...press the gas and wait to go...

The S3 on the other hand was a blast to drive...seriously considered it but went back to Lexus.

 

Is there a thread for the next gen ISF? I wanted to ask before starting one. I want to know if anyone knows more information about this since I haven't heard anything. I've been looking for an ISF for over a month, and I'm just about to give up.

 

I don't believe there are any plans for another IS F.

 

huge sigh. I dont want a turbocharged engine either even IF they were to bring it back out. I just want a scream NA v8. I guess ill just keep looking.

 

That's unfortunate. Lexus has stated that all future F models will no longer have NA V8 engines.

 

Mine doesn't say fsport on the back. Just the sides and inside.

 

FYI - F-Sport Badge on back was added MY15.