IS - 3rd Gen (2014-present) Discussion about the 2014+ model IS models

Need Purchase Advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 09:20 PM
  #1  
jd0ngg's Avatar
jd0ngg
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default Need Purchase Advice

I just posted this in the 2IS section as well, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to post here too since it's relevant:

Anyways, I currently have a 2010 IS250 6MT. I lease it through TMS so I get their killer lease deal that includes insurance (my dad works there so I'm lucky enough to get it through him). However, he's going to retire soon and I'm going to lose the lease deal.

The original plan was just to buy the car, but I've had a series of unfortunate events over the past year and a half that may have derailed that plan. A brief history:

I got the car new in April 2010. All was well...

Unfortunate Event 1: I got rear-ended by a huge F150. It was bad enough that the Lexus enform automatically went off (on-star equivalent) to see if everything was cool. I was OK, but the rear end was destroyed. Estimated damage was around $13-14K if I remember correctly.

Unfortunate Event 2: About a year later, my co-worker hit my car while it was in the parking lot with his early 2000 model year 4-Runner (featuring the metal bumper since it was 4WD. lucky me). This one hit the passenger side front axle/quarter panel area. Now, this doesn't sound bad since it's a parking lot, but he basically gassed it right into my car, so it kind of rode up above the wheel well and around since his 4Runner sat high and the IS is pretty low (I have pictures of this one). Damage was around $10K.

I've had the car for a little over 3 years and only have around 35K miles on it. If I were to buy it, I would pay $21K. Is it worth it despite the damage? I haven't had any issues since the last accident which was in April of 2012 and it seems to drive OK.

I know the 6MT isn't particularly common, but does anyone know of any foreseeable issues that I may not know of yet? If I don't get this car, I will go with the 3IS F-sport, which will obviously be considerably more expensive.

The $21K that I would buy my car for would be the same amount I'd put on a down payment if I were to go with the 3IS, so it obviously makes financial sense to just buy my car since it'd be paid off. However, I don't want to run into any problems down the line that I should have seen coming...

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?!

Thanks in advance guys!
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 02:13 AM
  #2  
dstopsie's Avatar
dstopsie
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 547
Likes: 8
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by jd0ngg
I just posted this in the 2IS section as well, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to post here too since it's relevant:

Anyways, I currently have a 2010 IS250 6MT. I lease it through TMS so I get their killer lease deal that includes insurance (my dad works there so I'm lucky enough to get it through him). However, he's going to retire soon and I'm going to lose the lease deal.

The original plan was just to buy the car, but I've had a series of unfortunate events over the past year and a half that may have derailed that plan. A brief history:

I got the car new in April 2010. All was well...

Unfortunate Event 1: I got rear-ended by a huge F150. It was bad enough that the Lexus enform automatically went off (on-star equivalent) to see if everything was cool. I was OK, but the rear end was destroyed. Estimated damage was around $13-14K if I remember correctly.

Unfortunate Event 2: About a year later, my co-worker hit my car while it was in the parking lot with his early 2000 model year 4-Runner (featuring the metal bumper since it was 4WD. lucky me). This one hit the passenger side front axle/quarter panel area. Now, this doesn't sound bad since it's a parking lot, but he basically gassed it right into my car, so it kind of rode up above the wheel well and around since his 4Runner sat high and the IS is pretty low (I have pictures of this one). Damage was around $10K.

I've had the car for a little over 3 years and only have around 35K miles on it. If I were to buy it, I would pay $21K. Is it worth it despite the damage? I haven't had any issues since the last accident which was in April of 2012 and it seems to drive OK.

I know the 6MT isn't particularly common, but does anyone know of any foreseeable issues that I may not know of yet? If I don't get this car, I will go with the 3IS F-sport, which will obviously be considerably more expensive.

The $21K that I would buy my car for would be the same amount I'd put on a down payment if I were to go with the 3IS, so it obviously makes financial sense to just buy my car since it'd be paid off. However, I don't want to run into any problems down the line that I should have seen coming...

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?!

Thanks in advance guys!
I'd sell it. Car has sustained damage that cost more to fix thn your car is worth. Repairs could cause you problems in the future.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 02:35 AM
  #3  
pinipig523's Avatar
pinipig523
Rookie
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: IL
Default

No way. Get rid of it. It seems like it's bad luck anyway.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 04:48 AM
  #4  
kabgolf1's Avatar
kabgolf1
Lead Lap
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 420
Likes: 3
From: Rhode Island
Default

I would dump the car as well. With that mount of damage and repair, keeping it long term could end up being an absolute nightmare.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:00 AM
  #5  
corradoMR2's Avatar
corradoMR2
The pursuit of F
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,296
Likes: 303
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

I tend to agree with the others. You risk having electrical glitches and abnormal mechanical issues down the line. It sounds like the car is practically entirely repainted which will not last as long as factory-baked on paint.

Also, if you're one that can't tolerate squeaks, rattles, and other noises, that might get to you eventually and you'll want to get rid of the car in addition to unanticipated issues that may come. At that point, you'll have a difficult time getting a buyer or you'll have to sell it really cheap.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 08:11 AM
  #6  
juvi22003's Avatar
juvi22003
Lead Lap
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,677
Likes: 8
From: TX
Default

I would either sell it or try to trade it in for a newer model, go for the 3IS.....
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 12:36 PM
  #7  
Timmah's Avatar
Timmah
Driver
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: HTX
Default

Since you dad knows the dealership that you got the car from I would ask them how much they would give you for it. If it is more than the buyout use it as a trade and roll the postive equity onto a new car and get out of it and make money doing so. If they are going to give you lets say 25k the payoff is 21k use that 4k as downpayment on your purchase or lease a new one.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 03:15 PM
  #8  
jd0ngg's Avatar
jd0ngg
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Well, I didn't get it from a dealership. He actually works at corporate, so it's a special lease through them that includes insurance (zero down, no mileage limit, all service included, etc.). I got to configure the car before it was built.

Basically, 21K is a pretty good deal for a relatively new car with only 35k miles, but it's probably not a good deal when you factor in all the damage (they won't bring the price down despite the damage...I already inquired about this).

If I were to buy it, I would be gambling that any of the damage sustained in the past won't re-surface again in any way, shape, or form. I took good care of the car, but my string of bad luck negated that and I don't know how it will affect it in the future (electrical or mechanical problems, etc.).

I've already committed myself to spending that 21K on something car related. I'm just trying to figure out whether or not it should be to pay off my car despite the previous damage, or use it as a down payment on the 3IS and have a car payment again...
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 04:31 PM
  #9  
greggy23's Avatar
greggy23
Rookie
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

When is your dad going to retire? Hurry up and have your dad order a new 3IS through the associate purchase program and turn in the current car.

It's a 3 year old car. I would not spend $21K on a used car that has been in 2 major accidents. I would turn it in and walk away from it and use the $21K that you have on a new 3IS.

Your dad can get a good deal on a new one. Around $3,000 under INVOICE for a new 3IS. You need to have all the cash up front or arrange financing on your own when you purchase through the program but it's worth it to get a car for that much under invoice.

Catch is you can't sell it for a year and if you back out of the order you have to pay a $500 penalty. That's what I would do.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:06 PM
  #10  
Timmah's Avatar
Timmah
Driver
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: HTX
Default

Why don't you take it to a Lexus store and see how much they will give you for that car. If it is more than 21k you can buy and make use the difference. Than your dad can have Lexus corporate tell Lexus (dealership) to sell you a car for a certain price.

I had done numerous car deals for Corporate folks and everything was done when corporate called the dealer and said he is the deal for you.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jd0ngg
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
4
Jul 15, 2013 10:48 PM
DigMyM35x
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
61
Mar 29, 2011 11:48 AM
cadfael_te
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
31
May 30, 2010 10:28 AM
BaBuJ
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
10
Mar 9, 2010 08:55 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:46 PM.