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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rufio808
Yeah I think I might go with the IJDMtoy ones because of how everyone with the VLED's are having reliability issues. But as far as your high beams go, What happens when you turn on the high beams? does the 9005's just don't turn on? I have the HID/AFS headlamps so my low beams are bi-xenon.
My high beams are still the HID's. The DRLs aren't affected by using high beams.

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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSenator
My high beams are still the HID's. The DRLs aren't affected by using high beams.
but why do other people in say you loose your high beams when you do the VLED/iJDMtoy DRL?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rufio808
but why do other people in say you loose your high beams when you do the VLED/iJDMtoy DRL?
If you have stock HID/AFS, 2 things happen when you switch on high beams:

1. The inner 9005 halogen bulb will light up (this is the same bulb used for DRL)
2. The outer D4S will be tilted up by the AFS system

So even if you replace the 9005 bulb with an LED kit, the HID/D4S will still provide some illumination, you just lose any extra light output the halogens may have provided. Personally I just had the dealer turn off my DRL. I value my high beams as over 50% of my driving is after dark.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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That is only true on 06-10 models though. 2011 factory HID's dropped the Bi-Xenon function of the HID's.

(I know this thread is related to pre-2011's, just thought I'd throw that out there).

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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Brociouz, can you provide a link to the parking bulbs you have? The one posted doesn't work. Also, are those 5k or 6k? Thanks bro.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bob4256
Yup same here. Something about having to drill a hole for the VLED kit and not for the iJDMtoy one? Can anyone else share their input on this?
You have to drill a hole with the iJDMToy kit because the module/decoder is too big to tuck in behind the moisture shield. Another member on here did discover a no-drilling workaround for the iJDMToy kit though, but it's still much more work then just tucking modules in there. iJDMToy is working on a smaller decoder though, that has yet to be released.

Originally Posted by Rufio808
Yeah I think I might go with the IJDMtoy ones because of how everyone with the VLED's are having reliability issues. But as far as your high beams go, What happens when you turn on the high beams? does the 9005's just don't turn on? I have the HID/AFS headlamps so my low beams are bi-xenon.
Everyone? I have V-LED DRLs and several members in NorCal have them and AFAIK no one has had any problems. 1-2 vocal people complaining on a forum about an issue (that would be covered under warranty for free) isn't exactly "everyone."

The LED DRL's will still light up whenever your high beams are engaged, but they don't emit much usable light so you effectively lose your secondary high beam. However, because you have bi-xenon lowbeams you retain some high beam functionality, but it won't be nearly as bright. It's a tradeoff.

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Too many pics to fapp too o.O, car looks clean man, I really like it!!! Where did you get those LED strips?
Thanks! Oznium.


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My high beams are still the HID's. The DRLs aren't affected by using high beams.
You have HID DRLs? I'm going to assume this is a typo.

Originally Posted by Rufio808
but why do other people in say you loose your high beams when you do the VLED/iJDMtoy DRL?
See above.

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
That is only true on 06-10 models though. 2011 factory HID's dropped the Bi-Xenon function of the HID's.

(I know this thread is related to pre-2011's, just thought I'd throw that out there).

Jeff
I think you're confused - the 2011 factory HIDs dropped the AFS functionality, but bi-xenon is still there.

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Brociouz, can you provide a link to the parking bulbs you have? The one posted doesn't work. Also, are those 5k or 6k? Thanks bro.
http://www.v-leds.com/part-id-s/194-...-168-2825.html. I have 6000K.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brociouz
I think you're confused - the 2011 factory HIDs dropped the AFS functionality, but bi-xenon is still there.
I know Lexus.com still lists them as Bi-Xenon, however it is often wrong/slightly wrong about specs/options you can get. In fact it even lists the IS250 as having dual-piston front calipers. No 2IS has ever had dual-piston calipers (the IS300 did). I based my information on the NCF books, I don't have HID's on my 2011, so I haven't had a chance to check this personally, but this is what I based it on.

2006-2010 Lighting Information (from 2006 NCF):



2011 Lighting Information (from 2011 NCF):





Maybe someone with a 2011 can chime in, I guess.

2019 EDIT: Came across this old thread, and this information is incorrect. 2011+ HID's do have bi-xenon. No idea why the Lexus docs said differently.

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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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Thanks Jeff, that does clear some things up.
I was curious to see just what my lights do under certain conditions, so I went and tested. (I have OEM HID headlights, LED DRL, no parking lights)
Should have taken video...

If I turn my headlights on ---> LEDs turn off
If I have only my DRLs on and flash high beams ---> LEDs flash off, HIDs flash on
If I have my low beam HIDs on and flash high beams ---> LEDs still off, HIDs flash "brighter" (up)
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
I know Lexus.com still lists them as Bi-Xenon, however it is often wrong/slightly wrong about specs/options you can get. In fact it even lists the IS250 as having dual-piston front calipers. No 2IS has ever had dual-piston calipers (the IS300 did). I based my information on the NCF books, I don't have HID's on my 2011, so I haven't had a chance to check this personally, but this is what I based it on.

Maybe someone with a 2011 can chime in, I guess.

Jeff
Wow, that reflects pretty poorly on Lexus (assuming it's true, which I think it is). I had several Lexus salepeople tell me they were bi-xenon as well, but I believe your documentation over them and Lexus.com.

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Thanks Jeff, that does clear some things up.
I was curious to see just what my lights do under certain conditions, so I went and tested. (I have OEM HID headlights, LED DRL, no parking lights)
Should have taken video...

If I turn my headlights on ---> LEDs turn off
If I have only my DRLs on and flash high beams ---> LEDs flash off, HIDs flash on
If I have my low beam HIDs on and flash high beams ---> LEDs still off, HIDs flash "brighter" (up)
For your third iteration, your LED DRLs should turn on whenever high beams are engaged. If not, something might be wrong with your module/decoder.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brociouz
For your third iteration, your LED DRLs should turn on whenever high beams are engaged. If not, something might be wrong with your module/decoder.
So, you're saying that with low beam HIDs on, when flashing the high beams from the column, my HID's should do nothing and my LED/DRL should only function as the high beam? Why does the picture 06-10 say the projector style HID is used for hi/low beam?

I'm asking btw, not rhetorically.

EDIT: I saw on post #18 its supposed to do both. I will do some more testing this weekend if I can find the old halogens...

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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSenator
So, you're saying that with low beam HIDs on, when flashing the high beams from the column, my HID's should do nothing and my LED/DRL should only function as the high beam? Why does the picture 06-10 say the projector style HID is used for hi/low beam?

I'm asking btw, not rhetorically.

EDIT: I saw on post #18 its supposed to do both. I will do some more testing this weekend if I can find the old halogens...
Looks like your figured it out, but your low beams will remain on as your flash, but they become brighter as the bi-xenon shield is lifted and they go into "high beam mode." It says a projector style HID is used for hi/low beam because of the bi-xenon functionality.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brociouz
Looks like your figured it out, but your low beams will remain on as your flash, but they become brighter as the bi-xenon shield is lifted and they go into "high beam mode." It says a projector style HID is used for hi/low beam because of the bi-xenon functionality.
Thanks for clarifying.

Now I'm wondering what the deal with the decoders is. If my polarity was wrong, I don't see them working at all. I need to research what the decoders do, because my DRLs indeed shut off under "high beam", but have no problems immediately coming back on. Odd huh?
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSenator
Thanks for clarifying.

Now I'm wondering what the deal with the decoders is. If my polarity was wrong, I don't see them working at all. I need to research what the decoders do, because my DRLs indeed shut off under "high beam", but have no problems immediately coming back on. Odd huh?
The point of the decoder is to basically ensure a constant power supply to your 9005 DRL/high beam socket. This is because in 06-10 ISx50s DRL mode is basically your 9005 socket running at a lower power setting. Since the LED DRLs need constant power, the module/decoder is designed to achieve just that. Maybe iJDMToy designs their decoders differently so that don't come on in high beam mode, although that doesn't make much sense.
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