Before I pull trigger, planning to get, F - 9.5 +22/R - 10.5 +22 for IS350, Car will be dropped to no gap. What will be needed to make this fit? Just fender roll and no fender pull right? Please chime in experts! :-(

 

camber can not be adjusted from the factory. you'll need aftermarket camber arms that allow for camber adjustments. probably one degree more should be fine.

zero out the toe.

19x8.5 +42 and 19x9.5 +45, as long as they clear brake calipers.

the conservative offsets will allow you to run wider-than-oem-sized tires without clearance issues.



not going to happen with those wheel specs.

to be continued...

steezy is right. you bought the wrong sizes.

those specs aren't for 2is owners not looking to do fender modifications and/or stretch tires.

since you aren't looking to roll your fenders AND run stretched tires, only way you'll get by is to go back to stock height, since the instant you lower your 2is you'll have clearance issues.

let this be a warning to those looking to run wider-than-oem wheels with aggressive offsets. if you want to play, you've got to pay.

you'll need a light pull while the fenders are being rolled.

you'll also need to run 225/35-19 + 245/35-19.

235/35-19 + 265/30-19 might be possible if your rear fenders are pulled enough.

 

Alright that's no problem, I personally know the guy who I bought from so I'll go drop by tomorrow and swap em for some +30s. A few quick questions before I go do it tmrw though..

If i keep my +22 and I do stretch the tires, how often would I be replacing my tires due to wear? I tried googling but couldnt find much info. Keep in mind im gonna make sure my toe is good.

Also, is it possible to run square set up on RWD is250? like 9.5 all around?

Lastly, if I go swap for +30 tmrw, just my fender roll should be good.. no pulling or tire stretch required right?

Thanks for helping out a noob!

 

1. with a dead-on alignment, the fact that you are stretching the tire sidewall and causing undue stress and pressure on it will cause premature sidewall deformation and failure. when it will happen depends on how often you flip your tires and your driving habits. given that your 2is is lowered, the change in camber specs will cause the inside shoulder (and part of the sidewall) to be subject to those forces. it'll wear faster there and run hotter as well, and tire sidewalls are simply not reinforced in that area to support that kind of use/abuse.

2. it is possible to run a square set-up, but then running staggered tire sizes will create different aesthetics. some mind, some don't.

3. even if you swap for +30 tomorrow, you'll still have to do some light tire stretching, but it'll at least be safe for daily driving.

word of wise, figure out how you want your wheels to fit before buying them, rather than buying wheels and finding out that you need to do all this work that you don't want to do (stretch tires, roll fenders) to make the wheels fit.

and my guess is, you're looking at a set of varrstoen's?

 

Alright just got off the phone with my friend, he said he only has 9.5 in +30s. So I guess I'll go with square set up. Btw, do you know where I could find pics of a square set up? I tried searching the forum to no avail.

Any guesstimate on how many miles I can make those stretched tires last on +30?

And yeah, haha. Was gonna with Volks, but an accident screwed me over and those are no longer within budget. (The accident wasn't my fault, but since it was in a parking lot no one was legally at fault, so I had to pay out of pocket.)

 

Sorry for the double post, but I did some digging around and discovered these IS's on +22..

http://www.street-cover.com/2011/ric...xus-is250.html

and

http://www.stancenation.com/2011/09/20/less-is-more/


They don't seem to have any pulling.. My question is, is their tire stretching too extreme for daily driving or something? What am I missing here? Seems like EVERYONE with varrstoens has +22 lol. Surely they can't ALL have fender pulls..

Thanks!

 

i feel for your situation, but my recommendation is, save up for the wheels that you want and can accomplish what you're looking for (no fender mods, no tire stretching) versus getting a set to get you by but may require doing what you don't want to do.

it seems like you want to do the least amount of fender modifications as possible and safely stretch tires over a set of wheels, and that tells me that you're not ready for varrstoens. as such, take those wheels back to your friend and get a refund.

on a related note, fender work is typically permanent and, short of replacing them with brand new sheetmetal, irreversible. i understand doing it for a baller set of wheels, but varrstoens? baller set of wheels, they are not. even if you are ready for a set of semi-aggressive-spec varrstoens, doing all that work for replica wheels doesn't seem all that worthwhile.

/$0.02.

 

Haha I get what you're saying, but I got a freaking amazing hookup on these wheels, so I'm happy for now lol. Besides, if I do fender work now, I'll be prepared for a couple of years down the line when I graduate and finally save up enough for some baller wheels. I'm OK with fender rolling at this point. Just a couple of questions now:

1. do you know where I could find pics of a square set up?

2. Any guesstimate on how many miles I can make those stretched tires last on +30?

3. What am I missing from the 2 links I provided... they have +22 but how come they don't seem to have any fender pulls, yet at the same time not too extreme stretching..


Thanks again for the help!! I won't bug you anymore after this lol.

 

Shoutout to projectdna... definately putting the work in this thread. Much thanks!

 

Lol he really should get paid for this. If I was in Cali i'd definitely go to him for my tire mounting and stuff.

Thanks again dna!

 

1. not really. but you can find pics of people who are running those specs either in the fronts or rears (i.e. 8.5/9.5 +22, 9.5/10.5+22).

2. hard to say. alignment specs, driving habits, and even tire type determines how much life you'll get out of your tires. but if you plan on getting symmetrical tires, get them flipped from side to side once so every often to maximize the life of the tires.

3. the pull is enough to allow for fender clearance, but not enough to disturb the fender creases and lines.

can't take all the credit. Mv350 deserves a lot of the credit for contributing in this thread. i just try to provide helpful advice.

as sappy as this sounds, it's part of being an enthusiast and building a sense of community (in spite of my own personal opinions of the fitment game).

i try to provide helpful advice, but at the end of the day, it's your money, it's your wheels and tires.

 

3. Ahhh ok I see. I was always under the assumption that pulling is something extreme like http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...22le4.jpg/sr=1

However, I've kinda realized that since I'm going with springs, my drop will be permanent and I can never adjust anything without coilovers. Thus, i dont wanna push the limits with +22.. I might get stuck with an undriveable car. Sooo I guess I'll go swap for some +30s tmrw, and then come back for tire size advice lol.

Thanks!

 

i was wandering if i go 19x11 +25 rear, and gonna put 245/35/19 on them, will they fit?

after roll or shave fender/ and slight pull?

 

19x9.5 + 35 for the rear. will this fit with no fender mods, what size tire you reccomend ?


cheers

 

Depends on how much you're dropped.

For stock height no mods needed, tire size 265/30/19.