Has anyone seen a Car & Driver report on the 2007 IS350? Nothing came up in their search.

I want to see this. In 2006, they did a 6 car shootout and lexus came in second to the 330i. Go figure...C&D places BMW first???

So they said the main reason Lexus came in second was because the VDMI and Traction could not be disabled. The other reason was the "pillow like" feel of the steering...which obviously hasnt changed in '07.

So if the 335 didnt come out, the 350 would probably take first, but i'm sure they will pick the 335 this year too. But they may see the price tags and change their minds.

p.s. my 100th post! stupid rookies

 

I am sure a rematch is coming with the new G35 as well having debuted.

Also we counted up the points and the IS 350 did not lose by 1 point, the two cars actually tied.

And losing by 1 point is a tie in my eyes regardless.

 

the IS should have some competition with the new G37 and 335i
But it'll be interesting

 

Feb issue of one of the car magazines (forgot which one) compared the TL, G3X and IS350. The IS came up #1 overall followed by the G3X. So IS owners rest assure that we're up there. vs 335? Maybe. Depending on what we're comparing. ie Reliability VS Performance VS overall satisfaction?

 

If you look at the stats betweein the BMW and the Lexus you will see that Car and Driver voted the BMW as smoother riding. It is also quieter under acceleration as well as at freeway speeds. To top it off the BMW also has better steering and handles much better. I wonder why the BMW placed first

 

if it's that much better then why did the total points come out to be a tie in the end? Interesting since BMW is so much better right? I wonder why.....

 

Lexus is focused on insulating their drivers from the drive, but give it plenty of performance in other areas. BMW is focused on providing as much feedback to the driver as necessary, including a compromise on absolute comfort.

Two different philosophies, two different class of cars in the sports sedan category.

As long as car magazines are written by car enthusiasts (i.e. drivers) I don't see Lexus beating out the BMW's.

 

I guess I should have said it depends who's comparing instead of what we're comparing. You're absolutely right. C and D is bias towards euro/german cars.

 

The BMW is NOT a quieter car... It is noisy as hell and rides VERY rough... I spent an entire day in a 335... It's pointless to buy that car... If you are going to get such a stiff handling car because you want performance, you should get the new 2008 M3... That's my plan... A regular 3-series is a lame car IMHO... Everyone has them and they are the lowest level, cheapest BMW... bleh!!!

The M3 though, man that car rocks... And the 2008 is going to be so damn sweet!!!

 

lexus is a better overall car and excels in more categories than a one trick pony BMW (handling). If I wanted to improve the handling on a Lexus I can always go aftermarket, the drawbacks a BMW has cannot be fixed with aftermarket while a Lexus you can do a lot more

 

Ok, let's look at some facts and see which is quieter. Here is a test of the 330i and IS350. Same day, same track. http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...1/pageNumber=6 Which is quieter under full acceleration and at crusing speeds?

Here is a test of the 335i coupe http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=105658

Here is another test of the IS350 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=64972 Once again, the BMW shows the quieter readings at full throttle and at cruising speeds. Same with other car magazines.

I rest my case.

 

my brother and his wife have been leasing the 330i sedan for the last year (or two), and of the number of times i've driven it like a rental, it's got so much more feedback from the chassis and suspension than my is350 - and i have the sports package on mine.

on the flip side, the i-Drive is a nuisance. the nav screen is also a joke...

 

This post delivers. This is exactly true.

The IS350 is by far the best total package but its not that small "enthusiast" percentage of the BWM can be ranked better by a magazine.

On that note, I was reading I think it was motor trend the other day. They always list current "specs" on cars in the back.

Even though the IS350 has "less feedback".. It bested the 330i in every single "number" from strait line to lateral G's... go figure. The BWM 330i feels better but the IS350 performs better all around yet and "enthusiast" would pick it? (note, it did have "new" numbers on the is350, 07 numbers so a comparison may be comming out again soon).

So its your choise, do you take the clearly better performing car all around or the one that “feels” better to dive? And isn't "feel" subjective?

magazines are never bias'ed


the simple fact of it for me is this, if I wanted something that "felt better" and was more focused on "hangling and performance".. I would have lept my Sti. People rationalize 335 aand M3 purchases buy performance and feel (As compared to the IS350)... well... yippi, I would have have kept my Sti which is a true street performance car.

 

in this case, i think i'll believe what i actually hear/feel rather than what a review says. if i think it's quieter... then that's what matters to me. just cause someone else says so doesn't mean it is. that's why you test drive both before buying.

 

You can tell there bias towards Lexus, compare it to this
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...3/pageId=59826

it has slower braking than the 350 and its Excellent, whereas we are just "good"

What kind of 350 were they driving to get a 6.1 0-60 for the 350?