Totaled?
Originally Posted by Bichon
Ball is in your court -- please do let Lexus know that their supposed "safety feature" was the proximate cause of your accident.
One other question: how did the front fender get shredded so badly? I'd have expected it to crumple, but it looks like it actually shredded.
One other question: how did the front fender get shredded so badly? I'd have expected it to crumple, but it looks like it actually shredded.
Originally Posted by al503
Not calling BS but that's a great insurance company if they total at ~30%. I think it does depend on the company. I remember reading an article in c&d or r&t where they did the same to a bimmer. Blue book was just around $31K and they ended up fixing it for $28K IIRC.
Originally Posted by jlin101
my sympathy for the owner aside, I don't see why Lexus should be faulted--Lexus doesn't advocate getting the cell phone out of the purse while vehicle is moving.
Choices:
1. answer the phone
2. don't answer the phone
3. put phone within easy reaching distance if you want to screen the incoming call
Sorry for your loss, glad you're ok though.
It's hard to say how bad the damage is... It would help if we had some underhood shots, specifically to see how tweaked the engine is sitting and the condition of the passanger side strut tower. If the damage to the tower and suspension isn't severe, then I highly doubt the car is totaled.
It's hard to say how bad the damage is... It would help if we had some underhood shots, specifically to see how tweaked the engine is sitting and the condition of the passanger side strut tower. If the damage to the tower and suspension isn't severe, then I highly doubt the car is totaled.
Originally Posted by RshaoKh
Ouch... that looks bad... when my friend got rear ended his insurance company told him that it would have been totaled but it was SLIGHTLY under 30%(not exact but around there) of the cars currrent value. So if your car is around $35k then if the repairs are over about $10,500, then it's totaled. Other people are giving different %'s so I'm guessing it depends on your insurance company? His car did suffer a lot of frame damage because I had to push the door open to get out. Anyway, glad that you're ok and hope you get things settled soon. 

Originally Posted by Ramon
Sorry for your loss, glad you're ok though.
It's hard to say how bad the damage is... It would help if we had some underhood shots, specifically to see how tweaked the engine is sitting and the condition of the passanger side strut tower. If the damage to the tower and suspension isn't severe, then I highly doubt the car is totaled.
It's hard to say how bad the damage is... It would help if we had some underhood shots, specifically to see how tweaked the engine is sitting and the condition of the passanger side strut tower. If the damage to the tower and suspension isn't severe, then I highly doubt the car is totaled.
Might want to look over the fine print in your lease. You may start hopeing it can be fixed. Insurance companies do not pay replacement cost so you will loose a lot of value on the car. Difference in what the lease says it it worth and what the insurance says it is worth? You leased a car and the lease doesn't care if you have the car or not. You still pay the lease note and then at the end return to them a car in good shape or you pay some more.
I'm not sure if this has been said already, but, typically, a car is deemed a "total loss" when the airbags deploy. Since you appear to be at fault in this accident, however, I'm not sure how willing your insurance company will be to cut you a check for the replacement cost of the vehicle. I hope everything works out for you. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by grumpyer
Might want to look over the fine print in your lease. You may start hopeing it can be fixed. Insurance companies do not pay replacement cost so you will loose a lot of value on the car. Difference in what the lease says it it worth and what the insurance says it is worth? You leased a car and the lease doesn't care if you have the car or not. You still pay the lease note and then at the end return to them a car in good shape or you pay some more.
Originally Posted by The Law
I'm not sure if this has been said already, but, typically, a car is deemed a "total loss" when the airbags deploy.
Originally Posted by nixietink
I do have GAP insurance...wouldn't that cover a situation like this?
-Cars are totaled when airbags deploy
-30% of total value = total
-bla.. bla.. bla..
Most of you are tryin to help, but do just that, help. If your unsure, it just leads to more confusion. The reality is :
There are many factors that will deem a car totaled. Insurance companies would not total a brand new car that doesn't have more than 70% of damage to the cars market value. Anything higher( give or take 10-15% for diff. companies) and It is up to the insurance company and adjuster to see what would save their company money in the long run. A $3000 airbag is retail cost, not what a bodyshop or insurance company would pay. As far as damage, i would say it took a nice shot. It can 100% be fixed to pre-accident condition, with a qualified auto body shop. Ask your insurance company if they have any "direct repair" shops. This will save you time and headaches. This means that they have a close relationship with that shop and stand behind their work. Don't sign ANY "authorization of repair" (paperwork) in any body shop for ANY reason, until you know for sure that this is the place you want the car repaired. You ALWAYS can pick where u want the car repaired regardless of what some shop owners will tell you. I have personally fixed high end cars, with more extensive damage, that turned out perfect. Owners had very little or nothing at all bad to say. The auto body industry has come a long way and you would be suprised at the accuracy of the repairs. There are computers the auto tech uses, that will tell by the millimeter, how badly a car is damaged. In the right persons hands you would never know the car was hit before. Most people get scared off about things they know nothing about. It's easier to say hell no, no way, i'd never want it back and so on. As far as value of the car after it is fixed ....who cares, it's a lease and it's going back after the term is up.
I'm sure the mixed responses have your head spinning, so I'll leave the advice to those who can answer with more confidence than myself.
Anyway, I'm sincerely sorry and truly feel for you. I was recently in a similar situation (totalled my '01 IS in March), and I know how it is when you're forced to blame yourself. You'll probably play the situation over a thousand times in your head. But the bottom line is, your accident was caused by something that almost all of us do. Distractions are part of driving, and it's unfortunate that something as simple as a phone call led to this. You've clearly learned from this mistake, and if it's any consolation, your honesty will cause all of us to be more aware. Luckily, you made it out alright, and no one else was hurt.
Good luck with everything.
Anyway, I'm sincerely sorry and truly feel for you. I was recently in a similar situation (totalled my '01 IS in March), and I know how it is when you're forced to blame yourself. You'll probably play the situation over a thousand times in your head. But the bottom line is, your accident was caused by something that almost all of us do. Distractions are part of driving, and it's unfortunate that something as simple as a phone call led to this. You've clearly learned from this mistake, and if it's any consolation, your honesty will cause all of us to be more aware. Luckily, you made it out alright, and no one else was hurt.
Good luck with everything.



