Just to clarify, the 2GR 3.5L block maybe shared, but the Direct Injection system on the IS350 is currently exclusive to the IS350 only.

Agreed, but unlike it's Nissan competitor, Toyota/Lexus has actual variation between each model including displacement and chassis setup to differentiate them between the others, where as that one other company uses the same displacement engine from their A to Z line of cars.

Since we've gone on topic...lets refresh and go back to discussing the NEW IS' pricing.

 

So when does compare AWD A4 to a cheaper IS250 RWD makes sense.

Audi A4 FWD auto, $28,840

Therefore A4 FWD pricing would be at most $39,000.

Audi comes with better corrosion warranty, free maint for 4 years. Not to mention that at $39k, audi comes with 12 way power front seats plus 4 way power lumbar support with 60/40 split rear seats.

True. G35 does have less interior feature. But it does have way more power, better brakes, and just overal a much better performance car. So i guess we can discount 280HP vs 204.

Just because you prefer luxury interior, does not mean that there are no customer out there that choose performance over luxury interior.

Using same logic, we can say that all IS has is more luxurious interior and thats about it.

So why is more power for money takes back seat to more luxrious interior?

 

I agree that we are off topic.

But direction injection on both V6 is not exclusive to lexus. Both 3.5 V6 and 2.5 V6 for rest of world outside US utilized direction injection on the toyota sibling as well.

Again not a lexus exclusive as well.

 

Okay on that note, let's continue to discuss New IS pricing. Not get your last $0.02 in.

 

i say either everyone chills out and actually talks about the topic, or just lock the thread...

 

All three dealers i've emailed told me these exact same prices.....why are they more than the prices in the press release?.........Also, Longo Lexus said "I got the Lexus lease parameters and ran a IS250 lease. The car has a MSRP of 33954 and the lease is: 48 x 494 plus tax/ 12000 miles per year/1500 to start"



Here are how the vehicles are being packaged:



All vehicles will have:



* Ventilated Front and Solid Rear Disc Brakes
* Rear Wheel Drive
* Dual Chrome Exhaust Tips
* Double Wishbone Front & Multi-Link Rear Suspension
SAFETY FEATURES
* Vehicle Stability Control (VSC)
* Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic
Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) & Brake Assist
* Advanced Front Airbags (Twin-Chamber for Fr.
Passenger), Driver's and Front Passenger's Knee
Airbags, Fr. Seat Mounted Side Impact Airbags,
FR. & RR Side Curtain Airbags, Supplemental
Restraint System (SRS)
* Alarm with Immobilizer and In-Key Remote Control
* 3-Point Belts for All Seating Positions,
Including Fr & Outboard Rr w/Force Limiting
Pretensioner
* Child Restraint Seat (CRS) Top Tether Anchor
Brackets
* Tire Pressure Monitor / First Aid Kit / Tool Kit
LUXURY AND CONVENIENCE FEATURES
* SmartAccess w/ Push-Button Start/Stop
* Leather Trim w/ 10-Way Power Front Seats
(including lumbar)
* Power Moonroof w/ Dial-Adjustment & 1-Touch
Open/Close
* Electroluminescent Optitron Gauges
* Automatic Dual-Zone Climate Control
* Three-Spoke Leather Trimmed Steering Wheel
* Cruise Control
* LED Puddle Lamps
* Inside Auto Dimming Electrochromic Rearview
Mirror with Compass
* Driver Information Center w/ Trip Computer
* Lexus Premium Audio w/ 6-Disc In-Dash CD Changer,
* 13-Speakers, and Miniplug Auxiliary Input for MP3
Players
* Manual Tilt/Telescope Steering Wheel with Audio
Controls
* Power Windows with One-Touch Up/Down & Pinch
Protection
* Trunk Pass-Through
* Customized Body Electronics System (C-Best)
* Fold-Out Front Door Pockets w/ Water Bottle
Cut-Out
* Carpeted Floor Mats

* 18" Alloy Wheels w/ 225/40R18 Fr + 255/40R18
* Summer Tires
* Heated and Ventilated Front Seats, Wood Interior
Trim, and Perforated Leather Seat Upgrade



And now for the packages:



2.5 Liter DOHC, 24 Valve V6 Dual VVT-i
* 204 Horsepower, 185 lb-ft of Torque
* Six-Speed Electronically Controlled Automatic
Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i)
* Steering Wheel Mounted Shift Paddles
IS250, 2WD, automatic with above features: MSRP: $33954



Add:

* Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera
* Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input



IS250, 2WD, automatic with above features: MSRP: $36504



3.5 Liter DOHC, 24 Valve V6 Dual VVT-i
* 306 Horsepower, 277 lb-ft of Torque
* Six-Speed Electronically Controlled Automatic
Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i)
* Electronic Throttle Control System w/intelligence
(ETCS-i)


IS350, 2WD, automatic with above features, no navigation: MSRP: $38234



Add:

* Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera
* Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input



IS350, 2WD, automatic with above features, including navigation: MSRP: $40784



Add:

* Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera
* Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input
Sport Package Includes:
* Sport Suspension w/ Lower Ride Height, Sport
* Pedals, Aluminum Scuff Plates, 18" Alloys with
225/40R18 Fr + 255/40R18 Rr Summer Tires
* HID + Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
* Heated & Ventilated Front Seats, Perforated
Leather Seat Upgrade

* D & P Memory Seats

* Power Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel

* Rain-Sensing Wipers



IS350, 2WD, Sport Package, automatic with above features, MSRP: $42469



Luxury Package includes:

* HID+Adaptive Front Lighting
* Heated &Ventilated Front Seats

* Perforated Leather Seat Upgrade

* Wood Interior Trim

* Power Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel

* Driver & Passenger Memory Seats

* Illuminated Scuff Plates
* Power Rear Sunshade

* Rain-Sensing Wipers
* Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera
* Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input



IS350, 2WD, Luxury Package, automatic with above features, MSRP: $42984



I know, it's a lot to consider! To truly understand how all these features translate into an amazingly luxurious yet powerful sport sedan, you HAVE to come see and drive one. Please let me know what you're

schedule looks like, and we'll set up an appointment for take off! Eh, I mean, test drive!

 

but picus, main thing that you are forgetting is that G35 loaded is about same feature set as 38k IS350... You could get loaded IS350 but in that case G35 would seem like Corolla in terms of features.

This is kind of funny, I dont see why are we even trying to prove anything... it is teriffic pricing for both IS250 and IS350...

 

Let's let it go, ok? Comparing the G35 to a Corolla is about as silly as me comparing it to an EL. Thing is, I was poking fun and you're serious. In the interest of the thread lets just agree to disagree about IS250 pricing. I do agree IS350 pricing is good.

Cheers.

 

IS 250 6MT RWD: $29,990
IS 250 6AT RWD: $31,160
IS 250 AWD: $34,285
IS 350: $35,440

Destination: $695

PT Premium Package includes Perforated Leather
Seats, Heated and Ventilated Front Seats w/ Lexus
Memory System, and Bird&rsquos Eye Maple Interior Trim
(RWD Models Only)
$1,290

LD Luxury Package includes Bi-Xenon HID + AFS
w/Auto Level Headlamps; Outside Auto-Dimming
Mirrors; Power Tilt/Telescopic Steering Wheel;
Rain-Sensing Wipers and Power Sunshade
(IS 250 AWD Only)
$2,205

LL Luxury Package includes Perforated Leather Seats
Heated and Ventilated Front Seats with Lexus Memory
System; Bi-Xenon HID + AFS w/Auto Level Headlamps;
Outside Auto-Dimming Mirrors; Power Tilt/Telescopic
Steering Wheel; Rain-Sensing Wipers; Power Sunshade;
and Bird&rsquos Eye Maple Interior Trim
(RWD Models Only)
$3,495

LT Luxury Package includes 225/40R18 + 255/40R18"
Alloy Wheels w/ summer tires; Perforated Leather Seats,
Heated and Ventilated Front Seats with Lexus Memory
System; Bi-Xenon HID + AFS w/Auto Level Headlamps;
Outside Auto-Dimming Mirrors; Power Tilt/Telescopic
Steering Wheel; Rain-Sensing Wipers; Power Sunshade;
and Bird&rsquos Eye Maple Interior Trim
(RWD Models Only)
$4,215

VN Navigation System/Mark Levinson Premium Audio
Package includes DVD Changer and 14 Speakers,
Voice Activation, Bluetooth Technology, and Backup Monitor
$3,990

NV Navigation System
w/ AM/FM CD Changer and 13 Speakers includes
Voice Activation, Bluetooth Technology, and Backup Monitor
$2,550

ML Mark Levinson Premium Audio Package
w/ AM/FM CD Changer and 14 Speakers
$940

PA Intuitive Parking Assist
$500

HW Headlamp Washers
(Requires LD, LL, LT, or ST)
$100

FT 18" Alloy Wheels with Summer Tire
(RWD Models Only)
$720

PS Lexus Pre-Collision System (PCS) & Dynamic Radar
Cruise Control
(6AT Models Only)
$2,850

ST Sport Package includes 225/40R18 + 255/40R18"
Alloy Wheels w/ Summer Tires, Sport Tuned Suspension,
Bi-Xenon HID + AFS w/Auto Leveling Headlamps, Perforated
Leather Seats, Heated and Ventilated Front Seats w/ Lexus
Memory System; Alloy Brake and Accelerator Pedals; Power
Tilt/Telescopic Steering Wheel; Rain-Sensing Wipers
(IS 250 RWD A/T and IS 350 Only)
$3,695

ST Sport Package includes 225/40R18 + 255/40R18"
Alloy Wheels w/ Summer Tires, Sport Tuned Suspension,
Bi-Xenon HID + AFS w/Auto Leveling Headlamps, Perforated
Leather Seats, Heated and Ventilated Front Seats w/ Lexus
Memory System; Alloy Brake, Accelerator, and Clutch Pedals;
Power Tilt/Telescopic Steering Wheel; Rain-Sensing Wipers
(IS250 M/T Only)
$3,725

 

Please re-read what I wrote. I said Lexus/Toyota shares platforms/engines parts.

 

BACK TO IS PRICING PLEASE

The proof will be in the pudding. We'll see in the coming months how well or how badly the car sells. Consumers will be voting with $$$$$

 

The way I see it, the price of the IS350 is fair. Not a bargain, but not outrageous either.

The main thing I would change would be to make HID standard and separate out AFS into an option (like on the 2006 GS).

Xenons are pretty much expected even in entry level lux cars these days, and its primary competitors--the 330i, G35 and TL, all offer xenons as standard equipment.

As it stands now, you're forced to get a $3500 package just to get xenons.

 

Okay. We all know the performance advantage the G35 has over the IS250 as I didnt need to restate it again. Just looks back and read 3 pages of the same thing. Most of us here are all performance enthusiast and know how much power each car has. Why state it again?? What I posted is what people may or may not know about total prices when compareably equipped.

Okay well since you insist, I priced out a Audi 2.0T FWD Auto just for you. $39,185 with the same options.

Once again, make your own conclusion on what you think is a better deal. Like I said in the last line of the original post. If you want performacne for your money, G35, if you want more luxury for the money IS250. I personally know what I would rather have, so no need to persuade me with yall opinions. Do what you gotta do.

 

lmao....why thank you. I guess I do what I can.

 

Assuming these prices quoted below are correct, what is the justification for choosing the LT package ($4,215) instead of just getting the ST ($3,695)? A $520 difference for a little bit of wood over the center console? Am I missing something?

Furthermore, why would you consider the LL ($3,495) and not go ahead and just get the ST ($3,695)? For $200 more, you get the 18" tires AND the sport suspension. The 18" tire option alone is worth $720 (FT package).

Either the prices are wrong, or the package description are incorrect... I'm specifically thinking the sport packages have too much overlap with the luxury packages. Actually, it might be both. Feedback?

Later Edit: Why is Nav + ML separately cost $3490 ($2550+$940) LESS THAN the VN package ($3990) by $500?!? These cannot possibly be the final MSRP options pricing, right?